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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinany03 View Post
    When I added a player to an empty slot from the list, I think the % quality shown on his profile slightly increased. It was only slightly, e.g. it was 56% when on the list but after I signed him, he shows 60%. Did you notice something like this?
    Yes, the % changes when you add them to the academy. Not sure why, maybe the first % is an estimate which then gets more accurate once you've got them in your academy... or maybe it's just Nordeus!!
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    Update Main Team & YOLO Team

    So today I post the selections of my other 2 teams before we can tomorrow start investing in coaches and see the side of the youth academy.

    On my main team I selected:

    AMC for free, MR for free, DMC for 3T and DL for 4T

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    So overall my choice on this account was pretty poor, I had no 5T and 6T selection and the positions could also be better. Yet I still picked a DMC that I could use next season and the DL, who I could use the season after. I don't expect much from the free players, but they will be ok subs for the last 2 to 5 minutes. lol

    The YOLO team picked these players:

    MR for free, MR for free, MC for 2T, DC for 4T

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    As my assumption at the moment is this, that the more expensive your youth player is in terms of tokens, the faster of a trainer he is, we will use the 4T DC as our player who we invest in the most expensive coach 3 times, starting tomorrow and see what we get out of it.

    See you tomorrow.
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    The gaining from the coaches depends from the current quality of the players (with the old classic logic - the higher the the quality, the harder gaining).
    Cannot figure out if someone is fast or slow trainer yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    On my main team I selected:

    AMC for free, MR for free, DMC for 3T and DL for 4T

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    On my main account all 4 of my selections are slow trainers, which is very disappointing, even though I didn't invest in any coaches. I will now take a look into the other teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    The YOLO team picked these players:

    MR for free, MR for free, MC for 2T, DC for 4T

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    These are the guys on the YOLO team. The 2 4 star guys are again bad, the other ones, not sure. The 81% MR seems ok with 127,7M for his quality. On this level (42) I can't 100% tell you the values for FTs anymore, unfortunately.
    I have 2 guys of which I surely know they are FTs on this team, they are 20 years old and 80% and 82% quality and they are 127,6M. So just by guessing here, I'd say the 127.7M MR is not that bad, the DC should be not good again.

    I tested SA with the MR and he was kind of mediocre trainer. Again, I can for sure say that none of these players is a first class fast trainer.
    I will keep an eye open for good FTs in these qualities on the market to have comparison players.

    For people who are interested in the skills of the pay to win DC - he is just a normal balanced player like Scout.

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    For some reason, the quality of the four players I chose has changed

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    * I hired the 1st coach for my ST
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    Little sidenote as well, you can now set your preferred position for the next season as well, which is generally a very good thing.

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    Quick Update Test Team 1

    So I wanted to show you what it looks like when you apply the different coaches on the player.
    It should also be possible to apply multiple coaches at the same time, so if you wanted to you can apply all 3 coaches every week, which would make the best player, but is crazy expensive.

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    For my 6T striker on test team 1 the coaches would change the player overall this way:

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    I decided to select the local coach for 7 days for the guy, he does improve his overall % by 13,3% (even though it firstly said 16,5% on the picture, which is a lie) which isn't too bad for this price.
    In my opinion the worst one to select is the senior coach, who is too expensive for what he does. Imo he has the worst price-performance ratio, the other 2 seem like better options also for their respective price.

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    Also I must say, that generally the coaches are too expensive and not really worth it. I now payed 6 Token to sign + 15T and 25 greens for a coach to get a 75% player. This is above average, I can get a 75% striker 18yo in the new season for probably 10 Token and no greens. So for me it is absolutely not worth it, on my main team I would never buy a coach, what is very sad, because it is again a feature in the game not well balanced and just not worth it.
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    Update YOLO DC

    So I just spent 80 Token and 70 greens on my DC and he has already gone up from 58% to 103% within the first week of coaching. Now this doesn't sound too bad, maybe the more you spend, the better value? Sure 80T is a lot, but when you consider training, this is about 150 greens, it's ok value on that part.
    We'll see next week when we are spending big again on YOLO Maniac youth squad. (Or when some other worthwhile coach is lurking around)

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    New coaches appeared - so new opportunities to spend (waste?) your ressources and we are in with our yolo DC.
    +10% for some packs we have plenty of? Shut up and take my money, we are in and our player is almost 7 stars already.

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    Freekick SA also a solid deal imo, but not on a DC.

    *Also they fixed the % issue mentioned here earlier.
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