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PricopGeorgeCătălin Players Condition - NEW 08-26-2015, 09:36 PM
mmunger Why was the old thread... 08-26-2015, 09:49 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin I already answered here... 08-26-2015, 09:55 PM
Michael Chambers The pressing statement is... 08-26-2015, 10:20 PM
Michael Chambers So just to state again, the... 08-26-2015, 10:22 PM
Harold Terah On point, that is true... 08-28-2015, 10:45 AM
khris Ok, lets try to leave all the... 08-26-2015, 10:26 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Fredi Hi Managers, ... 08-26-2015, 10:28 PM
Gert Funck Why should Zonal defense be... 08-27-2015, 07:38 AM
Top11 Manager you ever played football... 08-27-2015, 08:01 AM
Gert Funck Actually I have all my life,... 08-27-2015, 08:06 AM
Saturu Is it not clear to you that... 08-27-2015, 08:17 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin OFF-Topic: Well if you are... 08-27-2015, 08:31 AM
vad We see they the players lose... 08-26-2015, 10:28 PM
khris Options seems to be changed... 08-26-2015, 10:56 PM
Harold Terah One weird thing I notice was... 08-28-2015, 10:29 AM
Antonio Volpe im just wondering why my... 08-29-2015, 04:19 AM
Ngee I must admit, that I'm... 08-30-2015, 07:47 PM
Michael Chambers I just want Top 11 or whoever... 08-26-2015, 10:31 PM
khris My opinion as player too, is... 08-26-2015, 11:00 PM
Steppenwolf As I said earlier, this is... 08-26-2015, 11:11 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin I agree with you here and... 08-26-2015, 11:20 PM
muskrat that's what she said. 08-27-2015, 01:55 AM
cookizzz Any major change to game play... 08-27-2015, 03:12 AM
Dante David Spagnuolo Soy Nivel 16. Estoy por... 08-27-2015, 04:11 AM
ByloBand My point zero two dollars'... 08-27-2015, 05:20 AM
Celtic Warrior @ByloBand I totally agree... 08-27-2015, 05:27 AM
Samuro Yeah, you use that example... 08-27-2015, 05:40 AM
Samuro sorry, repost 08-27-2015, 05:41 AM
Michael Chambers So I see no one has stood up... 08-27-2015, 07:42 AM
meis Nordeus just want to find a... 08-27-2015, 08:32 AM
Michael Chambers So... the id name says it all... 08-27-2015, 08:34 AM
Killroy I am playing zonal defense,... 08-27-2015, 10:23 AM
Samuro So, there are total 3... 08-27-2015, 11:27 AM
Killroy Ok, just played 2 games with... 08-27-2015, 11:31 AM
Sons of Pitches If you want to make the game... 08-27-2015, 01:24 PM
mmunger When you read a statement by... 08-27-2015, 07:42 PM
ByloBand I struggle with how to feel... 08-27-2015, 02:20 PM
Samuro That's why I asked to... 08-27-2015, 02:55 PM
ByloBand I can get behind that idea! I... 08-27-2015, 03:08 PM
Samuro Sooo, do you agree that... 08-27-2015, 03:16 PM
ByloBand I believe the confusion stems... 08-27-2015, 06:36 PM
Jogrew It's a disgrace, especially... 08-27-2015, 02:23 PM
vad Here are some results. ... 08-27-2015, 03:24 PM
khris I was thinking in that too...... 08-27-2015, 03:33 PM
Moi Hi there, vad! I wanted to... 08-28-2015, 12:25 PM
Gert Funck Again you fail or refuse too... 08-28-2015, 12:37 PM
Moi Not at all, Gert Funck :) ... 08-28-2015, 12:44 PM
spornybol i`m not using high pressure... 08-28-2015, 01:55 PM
spornybol so since this change in... 08-27-2015, 05:19 PM
DarkStilgar The change is WAY too heavy... 08-27-2015, 05:52 PM
cookizzz Instead of only increasing... 08-27-2015, 07:38 PM
mmunger They have. My players lose up... 08-27-2015, 07:41 PM
Paivinha Hello everybody, I made a... 08-27-2015, 08:18 PM
Gert Funck For me the in game drop is by... 08-27-2015, 08:25 PM
CDL Agreed.. after this change i... 08-27-2015, 11:53 PM
Samuro A lot of us complain about... 08-28-2015, 01:53 AM
spornybol so played my 2nd game of day... 08-27-2015, 08:29 PM
pmarkham If Nordeus truthfully wanted... 08-27-2015, 08:32 PM
Gert Funck 52580 So more than one... 08-27-2015, 08:34 PM
Erick Zoominov From Sunday to Today, I've... 08-27-2015, 09:23 PM
Ralf Ruder Realistic? lol ..... all my... 08-28-2015, 10:46 AM
FCB yeah my players started... 08-28-2015, 11:52 AM
Rosli Said IF Really they implementing... 08-28-2015, 03:13 PM
Rayyaun Or fix the match 2 days at... 08-28-2015, 03:48 PM
Rosli Said 6-7 hours still not enough... 08-28-2015, 04:17 PM
Rayyaun I hestiate to invest... 08-28-2015, 03:53 PM
Rayyaun After one day two matches, my... 08-28-2015, 04:08 PM
Rosli Said when you change your players... 08-28-2015, 04:24 PM
Rosli Said Top 11 eleven are now... 08-28-2015, 04:47 PM
Stephan Marsell Help pls ( German ) 08-28-2015, 04:50 PM
khris Huhu, English translator... 08-28-2015, 06:29 PM
newbie1001 I'll say that again: More... 08-28-2015, 05:09 PM
Steppenwolf Shut up... don't give them... 08-28-2015, 05:11 PM
pmarkham In the games I've played so... 08-28-2015, 08:46 PM
spornybol Lord Nordeus won`t and never... 08-28-2015, 09:01 PM
Gert Funck Barcelona, as far as I know... 08-28-2015, 05:16 PM
spornybol each day ( League ) = 1 week... 08-28-2015, 05:52 PM
mmunger Found in Top Eleven's... 08-29-2015, 10:19 PM
pcmacdaniel As a loyal and paying... 08-30-2015, 01:11 AM
Cat Harrison Hahaha, austerity for all!!... 08-30-2015, 01:22 AM
podunkboy To be honest, this is likely... 08-30-2015, 04:58 AM
spornybol first they have increased the... 08-30-2015, 09:22 AM
Broxburn Morton I'll summarise where I stand.... 08-30-2015, 11:50 AM
spornybol Yet again two player back... 08-30-2015, 03:19 PM
spornybol second game of day at home... 08-30-2015, 08:39 PM
Rosli Said From 1k token down to... 08-31-2015, 11:59 AM
Rosli Said Yes ,one more injury today... 08-31-2015, 02:09 PM
firestorm42 What a complete joke this... 08-31-2015, 07:20 PM
Pallab Pegu Player condition 09-01-2015, 05:55 AM
spornybol agree and see you are just... 09-01-2015, 10:48 AM
spornybol Amazing new`s and... 08-31-2015, 07:09 PM
Gert Funck My CL match today 52819 ... 08-31-2015, 07:34 PM
Muhanad Alomyan Problem in the condition of... 09-02-2015, 08:55 AM
Cat Harrison Please read this thread,... 09-02-2015, 09:25 AM
pmarkham we are all aware of the... 09-02-2015, 02:04 PM
Fredi Please read: ... 09-03-2015, 09:35 AM
Gert Funck Yeeees, great work Fredi... 09-04-2015, 04:18 PM
spornybol pleased that Nordeus have... 09-04-2015, 06:52 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top11 Manager View Post
    you ever played football yourself? try man to man marking running with the opponent`s player all game long and tell me if that was less condition consuming than just waiting for him in your zone...
    Actually I have all my life, and it is a common misunderstanding that zonal defense is just stationary.

    Man to man does require more speed but that IMO is a different thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top11 Manager View Post
    you ever played football yourself? try man to man marking running with the opponent`s player all game long and tell me if that was less condition consuming than just waiting for him in your zone...
    Is it not clear to you that the aim of this change has nothing to do with realism?

    Is it not clear to you that the most important bit of realism change (for players) should be in the transfer market and token allocation ?

    Is it not clear to you that in the grand scheme of things non -paying T11 players are not considered relevant ?

    Is it not clear to you that while a couple hundreds are complaining on this forum, millions of others in USA, Germany, Vietnam, China, Turkey, Nigeria are shelling out hard earned cash to pay for rest packs and health packs and have no idea what has happened?

    Does it not annoy you ?

    Don't you feel pissed that anytime you start loving a game, the makers device new ways of fleecing you?

    Imagine if you had to pay for extra lives on super mario or you had to wait for 20 mins to get another try at tetris (or buy).



    I am so glad I was born at a better time when the emphasis was on mental ability, tactics, reaction, skill rather than the limit of a kids credit card.

    Just know your place on T11. If you dont pay, you dont matter.

    So:
    Option 1: Stop whining and quit or
    Option 2: Stop whining and tank or
    Option 3: Continue whining and warn all others or
    Option 4: Come together as a collective and protest till a change for the better occurs or
    Option 5: P.A.Y up

    I chose Option 2. Make your own choice and stick with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top11 Manager View Post
    you ever played football yourself? try man to man marking running with the opponent`s player all game long and tell me if that was less condition consuming than just waiting for him in your zone...
    OFF-Topic: Well if you are marking one-one-one Messi you will prob. won't lose condition to much

    Indeed, usually man-on-man marking is asking for a bigger effort from the player.
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    We see they the players lose more condition, but in order to make judgment about whether it's worth it, we need the second part of the equation: we need to know what we gain by that, i.e. how this affects the chance to win, or at least, indirectly, the number of shots, or possession, or any other parameter. So if I decide to sacrifice players' condition, I need to know what I'm sacrificing it for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vad View Post
    We see they the players lose more condition, but in order to make judgment about whether it's worth it, we need the second part of the equation: we need to know what we gain by that, i.e. how this affects the chance to win, or at least, indirectly, the number of shots, or possession, or any other parameter. So if I decide to sacrifice players' condition, I need to know what I'm sacrificing it for.
    Options seems to be changed in one way, I try to explain and hope I understand well the sense that Nordeus give to the orders;

    My idea and perception (I know everyone have it's own viewpoint, thats why I will try to get a official answer... as we can give a different interpretation to the options really...)
    Own field, so, defense boosted.
    Whole pitch, waste more condition (that was fake, coz waste was the same till last week (LOL)), due pressure in whole pitch, attack boosted and defense less boosted (have to be less boosted than pressure in own field no? is suposed... that was my idea...).

    Now, by my viewpoint, the options are in "uniform field sense" so;
    Low pressure (in all the field), waste less condition, not too much pressure in attack, and defense.
    High pressure (in all field as mentioned, uniform style pressure always) attacking and defense, is boosted.

    And thats by my theory, the "why" of the change of the orders name.


    PS: I will check that tomorrow to see if I still agree with myself. LOL

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    One weird thing I notice was that players are now getting tired in strange way, while I was watching my match, it got to a point where the condition color on the players was red although at the beginning of the match condition was full/99%... Very strange on the last league I had two line ups (22 players) 1 line up for league and the other one for championship and Cup, and I never worried about players' conditions when I play two matches in one day, but now it doesn't make any difference, even for the following day's match players conditions will be below 90%. This is frustrating...
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    im just wondering why my players are not gaining conditioning after the match .. my last game was at 13:25 & its now 05:12 am but there still mostly yellow .. now off to work lol

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    I must admit, that I'm thinking about leaving this game. I spent a lot of time and also some nice money and I am pretty bugged by the fact, that 7 of my players are injured at the moment and that I had to spend so much condition-packages.
    I know, that I probably have to change my pressing tactics, but I really don't understand why you create a change like this. The only obvious reason is for me, that Nordeus tries to squeeze more money out of the gamers. When I'm right, they score an own goal and loose loyal players.

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    I just want Top 11 or whoever the money man is, to stand up and admit, his plans have come back to bite him, this rubbish about its a tactic that decreases the the condition more rapidly is total rubbish, and everyone knows this, so in a nutshell, theirs nothing to discuss, I just want whoever, to be man enough and say they messed up. I get it, thats its a business, just dont try and insult us with lame excuses and stating its to make the game more realistic, because I could go on and on proving that is also rubbish
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    My opinion as player too, is that, the game becomes more absorbent now. Because managers if wanna save greens have to do;
    -Rotations, to have condition if x2 matches per day.
    -Control of pressure during the matches.

    Yeah so, allow you to manage, but in excessive mode, tiresome, and absorbent.

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