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    Quote Originally Posted by scale89 View Post
    personally don't see how any formation can be considered "illegal" football is a game that requires flexibility therefore surely football management games should have this also?
    'Why' doesn't really matter for our purposes here. The fact is, some formations in this game result in a major possession penalty. We're trying to identify what those rules are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scale89 View Post
    At the top of this thread however it is discussed that you should have a minimum of 3 defenders etc. I cannot see how having only 2 defenders is "illegal" or against the rules of the game. Like I say football is an evolving game and surely people should be given a freedom to play whatever formation they wish. For example on the game you cannot have 4 out and out forwards yet there is a formation in real life football 4-2-4. Whilst I concede this is not football manager etc. surely managers should be given the freedom to create new formations to trouble opponents? for example if I wanted to play a 2-5-3 formation.

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    4-2-4 is a 2 striker formation with 2 wingers, wingers are considered forwards in spain italy and south america, while in english speaking countries they are considered part of midfield
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    Someone like to comment on why this formation was penalised with 20-80 possession.
    I cannot see anything that seems to infringe on the current known guidelines if illegal formations.
    All players are in their correct positions also.
    Possession remained constant for the 90, no H/T in this match. I was ready to make a sub as some players had not recovered from a late game last night, the game clock went from 44min to 52min.
    Also another manager joined the game on 12min supporting me, not a clue who he is, made no difference to the possession so I suppose 80% is the maximum the engine will allow.

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    FAO Potemy.
    In reply to your post on the other thread about above image.

    Played same team against similar quality teams twice now in the away legs of the cup 1st match 64 and second 62% to me.
    They also had at least one player playing out of position, They were both L1 he is L3.
    So this poses another question then.
    The lower the level you play are the engine codes set to increase the posses
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accyrover View Post
    FAO Potemy.
    In reply to your post on the other thread about above image.

    Played same team against similar quality teams twice now in the away legs of the cup 1st match 64 and second 62% to me.
    They also had at least one player playing out of position, They were both L1 he is L3.
    So this poses another question then.
    The lower the level you play are the engine codes set to increase the posses
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    FAO = For the attention of.
    THe post in 'How are you doing, topic with the images of the formation 3-2-2-3.
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    A friend contacted me last night. He has a team in his Level 5 League playing this:-

    DC-DC
    DMR-DCM-DML
    MC-MC
    AMC
    ST-ST

    Now, according to current information this is an illegal formation with only 2 DCs. This team gets only 20% possession every game, yet, has won its last 2 games against the teams running 2nd & 3rd in the League. One of those this team beat of course was my friend who plays a straight 4-4-2 classic formation every game.

    Can anyone explain how an illegal formation with only 20% possession can win any game, let alone games against much stronger opponents?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accyrover View Post
    Someone like to comment on why this formation was penalised with 20-80 possession.
    I cannot see anything that seems to infringe on the current known guidelines if illegal formations.
    All players are in their correct positions also.
    Possession remained constant for the 90, no H/T in this match. I was ready to make a sub as some players had not recovered from a late game last night, the game clock went from 44min to 52min.
    Also another manager joined the game on 12min supporting me, not a clue who he is, made no difference to the possession so I suppose 80% is the maximum the engine will allow.

    Speculation:
    Utter and complete domination. Possession should have been 90%+ (check vs real life record??) but code only allows 80% maximum???

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    There is more to it than that look at the shots for 'Utter domination' four shots? your kidding me. lol
    As Gabe has mentioned and I agree at the moment the engine has had some serious mods.
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    I think this proves that having less than 4 players in your opponents half is considered an illegal formation.


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