Poll - Bring back Skill Limits again? what is fair?

[nikolgiorgos]

I prefer the old system but what I like most is to give the manager some freedom and make the game more tactical-managerial.
So remove the grey-white and make a player performance base in his skills.
A defender good at high ground but slow or an attacker good at scoring but not good at physical game.

Here an old thread I wrote
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...-gameplay.html

[Altiplano]

Right now we are seeing the last few seasons of players who were developed using the GK trick. Even teams that have tanked since the trick was closed will see their players retire soon. 2 perhaps 3 seasons and all these players will be gone.
Players developed using the MOM friendly trick however, will not leave the game through retirement for anything up to another 10(?) seasons. That is of course if they are in a permanently tanking team.
So by the end of 2019 the system should be free of all players developed using "tricks", "cheats" or "exploits"................apart from upselling.
So, I don't think Nordeus will or should introduce any other limits on our ability to train players. 340% for individual skills is expensive and time consuming to achieve. And not knowing at what point white skills stop gaining through training without gaining greys means that when it comes to trying to develop players we are all in the same situation.
I would however like to see something done about the stupidity that is allowing individual skills register as negatives. Put an end to draw manipulation.

[Kaizer Franz]

Right now we are seeing the last few seasons of players who were developed using the GK trick. Even teams that have tanked since the trick was closed will see their players retire soon. 2 perhaps 3 seasons and all these players will be gone.
Players developed using the MOM friendly trick however, will not leave the game through retirement for anything up to another 10(?) seasons. That is of course if they are in a permanently tanking team.
So by the end of 2019 the system should be free of all players developed using "tricks", "cheats" or "exploits"................apart from upselling.
So, I don't think Nordeus will or should introduce any other limits on our ability to train players. 340% for individual skills is expensive and time consuming to achieve. And not knowing at what point white skills stop gaining through training without gaining greys means that when it comes to trying to develop players we are all in the same situation.
I would however like to see something done about the stupidity that is allowing individual skills register as negatives. Put an end to draw manipulation.

Finally someone who know how the game works

[IImaestroII]

Right now we are seeing the last few seasons of players who were developed using the GK trick. Even teams that have tanked since the trick was closed will see their players retire soon. 2 perhaps 3 seasons and all these players will be gone.
Players developed using the MOM friendly trick however, will not leave the game through retirement for anything up to another 10(?) seasons. That is of course if they are in a permanently tanking team.
So by the end of 2019 the system should be free of all players developed using "tricks", "cheats" or "exploits"................apart from upselling.
So, I don't think Nordeus will or should introduce any other limits on our ability to train players. 340% for individual skills is expensive and time consuming to achieve. And not knowing at what point white skills stop gaining through training without gaining greys means that when it comes to trying to develop players we are all in the same situation.
I would however like to see something done about the stupidity that is allowing individual skills register as negatives. Put an end to draw manipulation.

Problem is that "people are leaving", just give a look at fb groups and ect.., there is NO time for Nordeus to wait any longer, they need to make a move fast before this game lose more players. I have a lot of friends that will retire soon (like in a month) or planning to retire if the situation remain like this. What is see now are new players that ask how to tank, how to build mutants, how to make the white skill go over 200%, tricks for assos...etc,is like a culture now lol. Like you said if they will wait end of 2019 to make their changes take effect might be too late for this game, probably the end of it.

[Kaizer Franz]

Problem is that "people are leaving", just give a look at fb groups and ect.., there is NO time for Nordeus to wait any longer, they need to make a move fast before this game lose more players. I have a lot of friends that will retire soon (like in a month) or planning to retire if the situation remain like this. What is see now are new players that ask how to tank, how to build mutants, how to make the white skill go over 200%, tricks for assos...etc,is like a culture now lol. Like you said if they will wait end of 2019 to make their changes take effect might be too late for this game, probably the end of it.

You think that your little sample of friends represent the whole players of top eleven ????
You are wrong . If your reasoning is based on that , for sure all deductions will be wrong ...