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Moi Cup changes 04-01-2016, 10:07 AM
El Pistolero It's what I was doing anyway,... 04-01-2016, 10:23 AM
Gert Funck I thought this was already... 04-01-2016, 12:13 PM
nikolgiorgos yea, me too. I don't think... 04-01-2016, 01:59 PM
Moi Hi niko, Right now players... 04-01-2016, 04:09 PM
gizzmo This change is to me just... 04-01-2016, 12:19 PM
Tactician Moi, I think that posts that... 04-01-2016, 12:47 PM
Moi Hi Tactician First of all,... 04-01-2016, 04:02 PM
Tactician Oh... come on Moi. ... 04-01-2016, 04:14 PM
Moi You know what I mean,... 04-01-2016, 04:16 PM
cookizzz This is just a slight change.... 04-01-2016, 01:57 PM
El Pistolero Tactician, you don't shy away... 04-01-2016, 02:45 PM
Tactician I have not referred to your... 04-01-2016, 02:52 PM
Tactician This is what I propose. The... 04-01-2016, 03:01 PM
Moi That's actually a nice... 04-01-2016, 04:03 PM
Tactician Thanks :) . 04-01-2016, 04:05 PM
cookizzz I like this. I saw... 04-01-2016, 04:47 PM
Tactician On the new version (2016),... 04-01-2016, 04:53 PM
Tactician In case you have any doubts,... 04-01-2016, 03:15 PM
El Pistolero It's ok, I didn't think your... 04-01-2016, 06:25 PM
nikolgiorgos I agree with Moi to that. As... 04-01-2016, 05:23 PM
Tactician Until some of you are among... 04-01-2016, 05:32 PM
nikolgiorgos yeah, shit happens. I played... 04-01-2016, 05:34 PM
Tactician Haha. I think if they... 04-01-2016, 05:38 PM
Tactician By the way, I have seen a Cup... 04-01-2016, 05:50 PM
khris I think everybody was... 04-01-2016, 07:52 PM
Sweed Mind taking a look for my self i... 04-01-2016, 07:56 PM
El Pistolero I like to think I'm helping... 04-01-2016, 08:44 PM
Bogdalinho just make the cup like the... 04-02-2016, 06:08 AM
Moi As I explained before in this... 04-02-2016, 10:07 AM
Sweed Mind maybe it should be more like... 04-02-2016, 10:30 AM
Tactician But, then this would be just... 04-02-2016, 10:48 AM
Arion It's 13 matches, yes, but 15... 04-02-2016, 02:37 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin It's a CUP and not a CL, the... 04-02-2016, 02:47 PM
Sweed Mind I was just giving my thoughts... 04-02-2016, 03:52 PM
Tactician Fairer yes, but then the game... 04-02-2016, 10:39 AM
Bogdalinho i don't have a problem with... 04-03-2016, 01:50 AM
Tactician Sure, a difference of 3... 04-03-2016, 02:20 AM
jcohen42 The general limit should be 2... 04-03-2016, 02:22 AM
Kaizer Franz Hi Moi, I don't understand... 04-02-2016, 10:36 AM
Moi No, it wasn't like that. The... 04-03-2016, 10:42 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin To be honest, some people are... 04-02-2016, 12:47 PM
Arion As Tactician said, it still... 04-02-2016, 02:34 PM
nikolgiorgos I don't agree with the... 04-02-2016, 04:28 PM
khris ...coming again about that is... 04-02-2016, 04:51 PM
nikolgiorgos as I said here... 04-02-2016, 05:53 PM
skrrr Could they not have the Cup... 04-03-2016, 10:48 AM
Tactician This is also a good... 04-03-2016, 10:58 AM
khris +1.... taking into account... 04-03-2016, 04:56 PM
Tactician What if your best 5 players... 04-03-2016, 05:23 PM
tomy31 Please change draw for cup... 04-04-2016, 08:39 AM
Kells Rotterdam Just had a season as a lvl 4... 04-09-2016, 05:39 AM
Gert Funck Few high level clubs on... 04-09-2016, 06:13 AM
Buffs Mad This is actually different... 06-20-2016, 10:21 PM
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    Technically, manually reducing the quality of your whole team by selling players is not cheating. This is taking advantage of the rules, which should be probably called "unfair" or morally wrong, but cheating is another thing. That's why we implemented this change, to minimize the effects of this behaviour. But, again, this is not cheating. Cheating would be hacking the system to illegally get some victories, some extra tokens or any similar stuff.
    I agree with Moi to that.
    As an old school gamer, when I was playing Tomb Rider in my ps, back to 1996 , I was visiting a site to get some info.
    So, I was reading in the sections there
    Tips & Tricks : If you move Lara Croft to climb in the upper left rock, she can shoot the monster-boss with her guns without be able to get hurt from it.
    Cheats : If you click Triangle-Circle-Square-Triangle-R1-L1-Square, Lara gets unlimited ammo or health packs.
    I thinks it's very obvious what's the difference between of those.

    Something else
    Ok, TE it's not a "fair" game anyway because managers who are older, have jobs, they are more wealthy, can buy Token.
    Some others have a plenty of time to spend (watching the games, supporting and get supported, have 2 or 3 teams).
    Many managers are able to farm a lot while others from other countries cannot.
    But is football fair ?
    is it fair Real or Barca to play in the same league with Bilbao ?
    Is it fair for Crystal Palace to compete Chelsea or City ?

    How about the world ?
    Is life fair for someone who was born in Ghana while someone else was born in Canada ?
    How about a woman who was born in Afghanistan and another woman who was born in Manhattan ?
    How can we demand from a game, based on football, with managers from all over the world, to be fair ?

    The system always tries to group teams by quality, but that's not always possible. If for example you have:
    - 18 level X teams
    - 20 level X-1 teams
    - 50 level X-2 teams
    - 400 level X-3 teams
    my objection to that is , why not the Cup have only teams from those two levels ?
    - 50 level X-2 teams
    - 400 level X-3 teams
    and for completing 128 teams groups, only then to use some "unlucky" managers - or maybe just use bot teams of 4* players for every level of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    and for completing 128 teams groups, only then to use some "unlucky" managers
    Until some of you are among the so called 'unlucky ones' and they start to vent around.

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    yeah, **** happens.
    I played in a CH.L. one lv above,
    as a tourist - haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    yeah, **** happens.
    I played in a CH.L. one lv above,
    as a tourist - haha
    Haha.

    I think if they implement something similar to my proposal, things will be much better without sacrificing the 'beauty' of the Cup. If all the teams are from the same levels, then there will be more or less no additional challenge as compared to the other two competitions.
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    By the way, I have seen a Cup competition with only one real user and the other were bots. In another situation, one which I have discussed last year, I saw 2 bot teams in the final of Cup competition. So, they do make use of bots in the Cup.
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    I think everybody was thinking that this is how worked... thats why people sell players last season day, buy lower Q. to have a best 14 of lower Q.(-uality) and then, buy the good players.


    This keep the things exactly in same point as mostly of people was doing the things in same way that now, with the changes have to be done to take advantadge.

    The problem, will be, exactly the same because decresing Quality and increasing one have a better and easy cup group in -market- terms, because have a market of +3-4 levels than others... Ive been more than 2 years in Cups of + 3 levels.

    The only way to avoid this is do a cup per level. And this will increase activity in cup because will be more fair and every season players will have more equal chances.

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    and yeahhh there are an amount of managers that save 1* players in team to decrease more.... put all them together in same level and all will be more fun, fair and logic. Because is not logic that a team in +4 levels face me when in my level I am better but results that with +4 levels if he buy a 5* playeer for me is 9*.

    For me and for all.
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    taking a look for my self i noticed that my CL level is 9. My leaque level is 9. My CUP level is 12. There 's a difference

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    I like to think I'm helping the game when it comes to 1* players because I train them multi positions aswell as special ability.

    I have a left footed MC who I train ML and AML and he has freekick ability. He's still only 20 so imagine when I sell him at the start of the season how many people will want to bid for him and use up tokens. And that player is just one example

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    just make the cup like the other 2 competitions, only teams from the same level, it will be perfect and fair for everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogdalinho View Post
    just make the cup like the other 2 competitions, only teams from the same level, it will be perfect and fair for everyone
    As I explained before in this thread, that's not always possible. What if you only have 20 teams of a specific level in one of the servers? Every Cup needs 128 teams, what do we do if we only have 20 teams of a specific level? A Cup competition with only 20 teams?

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