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    Quote Originally Posted by ppturano View Post
    Was it really that hard to figure out? Utter weaken your team and keep just the avg stars player you wanna meet in the cup draw (keep 3* if you want to face 3* teams). Sell them sack them whatever. Wait for new season, mass tokens (or dont spend what you bought), and as cup is sorted, buy scouts/youngsters/pt back the team.

    Wasnt really that hard to figure out. Point is not everyone has will to erase a hard worked team and start back from scratch.

    I couldnt aswell since my players over 5* cant be sold (i m top level for my server) so i d have to fire them, altho i would nave tried it for sure.

    Grats on the cup!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree View Post
    Was it really that hard to figure out? Utter weaken your team and keep just the avg stars player you wanna meet in the cup draw (keep 3* if you want to face 3* teams). Sell them sack them whatever. Wait for new season, mass tokens (or dont spend what you bought), and as cup is sorted, buy scouts/youngsters/pt back the team.

    Wasnt really that hard to figure out. Point is not everyone has will to erase a hard worked team and start back from scratch.

    I couldnt aswell since my players over 5* cant be sold (i m top level for my server) so i d have to fire them, altho i would nave tried it for sure.

    Grats on the cup!
    We didn't know if it was average quality of the whole team, top 11, top 14 or any other combination. That makes a big difference. Like you I'm at the top of my server so my top 11 is pretty strong with scouts but my bench is very weak as I didn't want to spend 50 tokens for bench players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic3 View Post
    We didn't know if it was average quality of the whole team, top 11, top 14 or any other combination. That makes a big difference. Like you I'm at the top of my server so my top 11 is pretty strong with scouts but my bench is very weak as I didn't want to spend 50 tokens for bench players.
    Ofc we knew it. Many of us has sold their benchers and took 1* players to lower the avg quality o their teams, and didnt work: that meant that the values implied at least the main 11.

    Soon enough was realized that to have a good sort what you had to do was replacing ALL your strongest players, and many of us (Me, July, dvr) commented that it was too extreme in the end.

    As for benchers, you dont need so many tokens for them. Assured a top 11 between 6-7 stars from scout and youths, having weak reserves and slowly sub them is a joke.

    Basically, with 1000 tokens per season there is a way to win the cup on a 99.999% chanche, league on 95%, CL on 80%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree View Post
    Was it really that hard to figure out? Utter weaken your team and keep just the avg stars player you wanna meet in the cup draw (keep 3* if you want to face 3* teams). Sell them sack them whatever. Wait for new season, mass tokens (or dont spend what you bought), and as cup is sorted, buy scouts/youngsters/pt back the team.

    Wasnt really that hard to figure out. Point is not everyone has will to erase a hard worked team and start back from scratch.

    I couldnt aswell since my players over 5* cant be sold (i m top level for my server) so i d have to fire them, altho i would nave tried it for sure.

    Grats on the cup!
    it is so hard to understand?

    we did not know the exact criteria and we were interested to know!!!

    now, thanks to the two of them (July and kaiballz) we know that are taken into account the 14 best players from each team
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    Quote Originally Posted by ppturano View Post
    it is so hard to understand?

    we did not know the exact criteria and we were interested to know!!!

    now, thanks to the two of them (July and kaiballz) we know that are taken into account the 14 best players from each team
    Yep it's hard to understand. after the new cup format's release, July, me and few other players sold off all the reserves taking in 1*\2* players instead, lowering the overall quality of our team by several points. 2 days later on nee season, every single one of us found himself in the same quality bracket for the cup.

    The very moment it was noticed that and discussed on forum, there was no doubt that whatever the case the calculation didnt go by overall team's quality BUT from the strongest 11, or at least your top players.

    That was during the second edition of the new cup format, so if i recall it right should be 3 or 4 seasons ago, if not 5. So yeah, it has been known since cup's second edition.

    To know if sistem considera 11 or 14 players is to little use: point still is that for the trick to work you need to totally dismantle your team.

    I'm not saying that the op work isnt appreciated, i just stated that the precision brought in wasnt needed. and anyway, we dont still know the exact parameters.