Any reasonable explanation for such results?

[Joe Hillis]

OK. I posted it in the "unsatisfactory results" thread, but no one seems to care. For me that's a great example this game ran out of any logic and completely contradicts reality. Right now I'm trying to find a reason to keep playing. All my friends already gave up and I'm managing all their teams (total 4), two of them in the same league...
That was a Cup top-16 round and both teams quality was pretty much the same.

1st leg. I played on the road. No one was watching the game. I win 4:2. Here's formations and stats:

2nd leg. Both team used the same players and formations. Me team was at home field, me and my buddies were watching, we had +15% possession bonus, took more shots, more shots on goal, more corners. And lost 1:4:


They made me to lose just enough to get eliminated.
This is the most recent and most ridiculous example of unrealistic outcome. I witnessed too many of them over the last couple weeks.
When was the last tome (if ever) something similar happened in real life? What's a logical explanation for such results? The only explanation I could find is that Nordeus made me to pay the price for my complains regarding the game engine.

[tongly45]

can't open your picture, you may re-upload it

[TypTex]

yeah can't open either .. reload your photos ..

oh and the photos you posted in the other thread don't give enough information for anyone else to offer an opinion.

[Kevin Cheng]

OK. I posted it in the "unsatisfactory results" thread, but no one seems to care.

It's not that we selectively chose to ignore your complaints. These results are becoming quite common, and not everyone has time to share their sympathy for every troll result. The unsatisfactory result thread is there for you to release your anger. It's doesn't quite fill the role of a support group for victims of the match engine. Last season I got knocked out of the CL by a team 8 quality lower even though I outplayed him statistically and tactically. I vented in the unsatisfactory results and simply moved on.

When was the last tome (if ever) something similar happened in real life? What's a logical explanation for such results?

Probably never, but Nordeus is far from real life football.

[Joe Hillis]

Sorry. I think the pictures were deleted cause I have kind of offensive avatar, now I just reloaded them without avatars.

It's not that we selectively chose to ignore your complaints. These results are becoming quite common, and not everyone has time to share their sympathy for every troll result. The unsatisfactory result thread is there for you to release your anger. It's doesn't quite fill the role of a support group for victims of the match engine. Last season I got knocked out of the CL by a team 8 quality lower even though I outplayed him statistically and tactically. I vented in the unsatisfactory results and simply moved on.


Probably never, but Nordeus is far from real life football.

I appreciate you response and there's nothing to disagree with.
I'm not looking for support though, I'm just trying to understand why people keep talking of tactics, formations, meanings of health conditions, special abilities, double positions and presence at the games? The last month proved for me that all those things are meaningless.
I just trained 2 my teams down to 0% conditions and both of them won their Champions league games 5:0 and 9:0 without suffering a single injury while some other teams are playing at 90-99% condition and suffer 3 injuries per game.
Same with viewings and formations. I'm getting better results when I don't watch the games. I'm getting different results all the time using one formation against another.
My players playing out of their position are getting higher ratings than playing at their assigned position.
I have a winger with "free kick" special ability and MC without that SA, they have absolutely same rating. My MC scores more from free kicks. "Penalty kick specialists" can't score a single penalty kick (one of the 4 teams I'm managing right now has a PK specialist who's 0 for 2 this season), etc...

These Cup games just prove meaningless of all those things the most.

And sorry for my broken English.

[ThichDaBongFC]

I'm just trying to understand why people keep talking of tactics, formations, meanings of health conditions, special abilities, double positions and presence at the games?

I don't believe much in these any more

The last month proved for me that all those things are meaningless.
I just trained 2 my teams down to 0% conditions and both of them won their Champions league games 5:0 and 9:0 without suffering a single injury while some other teams are playing at 90-99% condition and suffer 3 injuries per game.
Same with viewings and formations. I'm getting better results when I don't watch the games. I'm getting different results all the time using one formation against another.

During the time replying in forum, I forgot to represent a league match, and my team sadly won 2-0

My players playing out of their position are getting higher ratings than playing at their assigned position.

I'll try it.

"Penalty kick specialists" can't score a single penalty kick

Absolutely apply to one of my player. With sa PK, highest Shooting + Finishing (62/62 at level3), he misses more than 60% his penalty kicks, worse than a DC!

Share the pain with you.

[khris]

yeapp,, I too play against not symetric formations (in my case I win) and I really think that is not "nice" that this type of formations are not illegal... ...really I wanna see the Real Madrid (for example) playing with 3 MC's in the right side of the field and 1 in the left... alone in the dark xDD

so, this result = illegal formation based on guy's that are drunk and can not make symetrical formations due... you know, they are.. and the formation is legal, and, with a legal formation these 2 teams are more effective than you. That's all.

[Joe Hillis]

yeapp,, I too play against not symetric formations (in my case I win) and I really think that is not "nice" that this type of formations are not illegal... ...really I wanna see the Real Madrid (for example) playing with 3 MC's in the right side of the field and 1 in the left... alone in the dark xDD

so, this result = illegal formation based on guy's that are drunk and can not make symetrical formations due... you know, they are.. and the formation is legal, and, with a legal formation these 2 teams are more effective than you. That's all.

That was my team that played asymmetrical formation And it actually not so asymmetrical, I just put one of my MC's right on his only MC. But the ridiculous part is that I had more shots and more possession and lost 1:4 playing defensively both games. My defense is better than his offense, my defense did well playing on the road. But he scores just as many as he needs to win. Well, that's just top-11.

I'll try it.

If you look at the ratings my players got in those 2 Cup games you can notice the guy who played DC - Angersbach. He got 8 in both games. His natural positions are DR/DMR. And he never gets 8 when he plays DR or DMR. Usually 6 or 7. I can't figure it out.

[Razz]

Looks like both games should have been closer. It's not that you dominated then had an odd result .. you got an odd result and won, then got an odd result the other way and lost. 2-2 in both matches wouldn't be unsurprising.
In the end, this is a game of probability, and sometimes you get results on the otuside of the bell curve.

[Cat Harrison]

I also have a strong belief that it is harder to win at home in the Cup. I am of the opinion that the engine is different in the Cup by a lot compared to league and CL.