Counter Formations Less Effective Now?

[Saransh Vatsa]

There's just no point trying to argue with this guy, he's a self proclaimed Top Eleven expert.

If you don't mind me asking, show us your trophy room and current squad, and then we'll decide whether to take your opinions onboard.

Me?? I sorry but I play on android and there's no trophy room there But I never managed my team the 1st 3-4 seasons and won nothing, since then I have won only 4 leagues and numerous 2nd spots due to end of season trolls....

[Sxrenity]

Me?? I sorry but I play on android and there's no trophy room there But I never managed my team the 1st 3-4 seasons and won nothing, since then I have won only 4 leagues and numerous 2nd spots due to end of season trolls....

No Saranesh, this kid who is trying to educate us all with his superior knowledge of the game.

[joshyt]

I'm level 17.

Happy to share my trophy cabinet - worth mentioning that I joined at the same time as a group of friends.

One is a token buyer who pretty much buys his entire scout list every season and 'power trains' - I have been in his division every season apart from one and always in same champions league. To win leagues I have needed 70+ points every time.

Also back to back cups in the 'new' style cup competitions is a particular highlight!

Infact my only motivation for this game is to try and make his spending a waste of time.

[Saransh Vatsa]

I'm level 17.

Happy to share my trophy cabinet - worth mentioning that I joined at the same time as a group of friends.

One is a token buyer who pretty much buys his entire scout list every season and 'power trains' - I have been in his division every season apart from one and always in same champions league. To win leagues I have needed 70+ points every time.

Also back to back cups in the 'new' style cup competitions is a particular highlight!

Infact my only motivation for this game is to try and make his spending a waste of time.

FYI, The new Cup style is better and easier than the Older one

[Saransh Vatsa]

Where is he now??? Yesterday it was Yasina, today yoshyt, why Y????

[Belvedere]

A bit off topic but any tips on beating 4-4-2, 7 quality better than me ?

[reddeviljohn]

I went up against 442 today in the cup and to be honest did not know what to play, he was a level higher than me but only 1q diff, I have tried all sorts b4, so thought why should I always counter so thought I would see what would happen if I played 442 too and pressure bar was against me, could not get near them, so in 2nd have changed to 3N412 managed to equalize but they scored again straight away so went 3N-2N-3(AML/AMC/AMR)-2 and they added another so I am at a loss, in previous round I tried 4-3N-1-2 and won 1-0 with a pen and in return leg played 3N52 changing to 3N-3N-2W-2 winning 3-2

[Cholo Simeone]

I don't believe in "official" counter formations. There are a lot of factors that have an influence in the final result, and formation is only one of them. Quality of the first team is by far the most important one; if quality is similar, scoring or not in really clear chances (as second corners and counterattacks) is the key of the match. And there is an important part of randomness in the number of clear chances you have in a match.

So, my advice is to choose your formation depending on the skills of your players and the quality of your opponent: if his quality is worse, choose an offensive formation, if better, a defensive one, and with similar qualities, neutral formations like 442, or 451 usually work well. And then be lucky!!!

Cholo

[Sxrenity]

Managed to beat the team joint 1st with me today, and the main threat to my title hopes.

He was fielding a, you guessed it, 4-4-2.

Decided to play the usual 4-5-1V against it, focussing passing down the flanks, attacking mentality, pressing the whole pitch.
I dominated the stats, and I feel I could have easily put 4 past him, but one of his defenders played a blinder.









As you can see, I didn't get away freely, got hit by a 1st minute injury, so I'm glad I had my back up MC available at the rare time he's fit at the same time as my main MC.

His STs did seem to have a bad day, they got through on goal a couple of times before my defence halted them, I've been leaking goals all season so I'm glad they decided to perform properly today.

Quality must have played a BIG part here, although I've usually only just scraped through past teams like this fielding a 4-4-2, or narrow diamond.