Quote Originally Posted by Spyros View Post
Some facts for everyone's consideration:

We play a soccer manager game. Every company that produces such a game, makes sure results are NOT predetermined before a match starts, otherwise game is lame and not worth playing.
We cant get clear answers about strange results, because every manager game(not only top11) we play is complex.

However some of us have provided the fact that you can start a game with illegal formation, then switch to legal and win. Or vise versa if you prefer. Start with legal and score a couple goals, then switch to illegal and lose. Yet a few denying this fact. Fact that beats the silly predetermined results theory and make us wonder why it even have been brought up.



I have underlined and made bold the reason why all this turmoil is produced. Rage and disappointment make good friends with slander.
Mate look, I have 9 teams that I manage and I have seen too many instances to prove to me beyond reasonable doubt that results are pre-determined. For instance, I have 4 teams in the same League and typically I would seek to "control" the results but it is only when I seek to control BEFORE the game that I get the W-L result that I want. If Team A plays Team B, and both teams start with legal formations, and 20 minutes in, Team A leads by 2 goals... and I want them to draw - setting Team A's formation to the most illegal formation in the whole wide would would not help... unless the System has pre-determined that Team B roam back. I have seen too many, seriously, especially with my teams playing each other all the time.

Now, just following my last post in this same thread, I played a Champions League game with my main account. I was at home, and I brought into the game an away goal from the first leg which ended 1-1. I controlled the game with 60% possession... the other manager was not watching, and I had chance after chance but... I lost 0-1 close to the end. With full +15% possession, maxed out condition and morale, and maxed out win bonus... along with almost an entire team of 6-star players playing against his 3-to-4-star players...

... I am speechless. I even retimed the game so the game would happen at 2:27am his time. Didn't work baby.

Here's the thing with us. We want so much to believe that we can control outcomes of games, fulfilling our managerial fantasies, that season after season we seek to do the same things, hoping to change an outcome that is pre-determined. Why? Because it's more fun that way. Sometimes it APPEARS to work (because what we want to happen is consistent with what Nordeus wants / pre-determines) and sometimes it doesn't (d'oh, how often does Nordeus give us what we want? Nordeus is a business so their primary aim is not to charitably renders you pleasure, but to subtly coax you to spend).