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    Quote Originally Posted by Sully View Post
    the wiki is severely lacking in info that is important to gameplay. Great, we have stats on the stadium and what Special abilities there are, but nothing on what they really do and really how to play the game properly.

    The wiki is a waste of time

    Its a soccer (football) manager game hun ??? If you follow soccer then you already know how to play it !!!! I'm not batman or a hedgehog called sonic so I might need info on how that works !!! but seriously you think the top managers in the game have a manual on how to win every game ???????

    Or do they choose from experience as Skidz is doing ?? and Skidz at least is willing to pass on information to newbie players ( Good on ya Skidz hun )

    Sully if you need a manual on how football ( soccer) works your going to need more than luck to win a game hun . trial and error is the name of the game !!! try it it's fun

    The wiki is not a waste of time for new players it's very helpful !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo Meow Odom View Post
    Its a soccer (football) manager game hun ??? If you follow soccer then you already know how to play it !!!! I'm not batman or a hedgehog called sonic so I might need info on how that works !!! but seriously you think the top managers in the game have a manual on how to win every game ???????

    Or do they choose from experience as Skidz is doing ?? and Skidz at least is willing to pass on information to newbie players ( Good on ya Skidz hun )

    Sully if you need a manual on how football ( soccer) works your going to need more than luck to win a game hun . trial and error is the name of the game !!! try it it's fun

    The wiki is not a waste of time for new players it's very helpful !!!!!
    wow, thanks for not understanding the issue in the first place, I will try to clear it up a bit.

    I dont need a manual on how to play football. I am aware of the rules of the game of football. What I still lack knowledge on is the rules of topeleven and THEIR VERSION OF FOOTBALL. the wiki is severly lacking in any knowledge that is useful in playing this game as a football manager game, and is just a waste of time for reading unless you want to know what $$$ you need to build a stadium. The wiki is not informative on how to play the game.

    Every card game has rules, chess and checkers have rules, most games in the world have rules and instructions.

    Now, all the game tables at the casino have rules but lack instructions on how to play, that is because they dont want you to know how to play the game better, they just want you to drop as much money as possible. See the similarities? This is a candy coated football version of a dice rolling game, which is probably why there is no manual.

    What you are telling me is that Skidz is the new manual on this game, as he knows all about the game through experience and he can tell us what julyforth cant even tell us, which is what each thing does in topeleven as a 100% fact. Because experience is as good as knowing 100% about everything. After 16 seasons of winning my league season after season, I am experienced as well, if not more than skidz, and I still dont know what exactly some of the Special abilities do, what the arrows do to your condition exactly, what exactly happens when a goalkeeper gets injured and why, the difference to the morale/condition when using zonal/m2m or easy/hard/normal tackle...etc.

    Even if he was the most experienced mananger in this game, he can only speculate what anything does in this game if it is not expressly explained by the devs or nordeus. Until that time, Skids should really stop saying that something works for most formations when he cant possible know that, because to say it that way means it works for everyone, which is false.

    so skids, I have no probs with your attempts to help people and its a great thing to do, but you could reword things a bit so people dont get the wrong impression, and that is that you know something that everyone else doesnt. not an insult, just trying to clear things, up.

    you know, a reply from a dev or someone at nordeus to clear up what it does would be nice....

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    Sully I have stated on several times I never said 100 % but you continue, to bring this up, I have tried to explain again and again what I ment, to you it was miss understood so I will be more carefull how I word things in future for your or any other manager out there's benifit!, I do not say I know everything! This is you spreading this about!, I do not insult the likes of July the Fourths ideals as it is from his guide that eventually was removed I got all my success, I was lucky to have it available for a season or two when I first started!, what you are doing is directly acusing me of being the manual of T11 whether you realize it or not!, If you read some of my other posts on different threads you would clearly have seen this, why we are even still aving this debate is a complete waste of time or are you going, to continue, to throw the rule book at me?.Nordeus Wikki: is all they have so we make do and judge it as we see fit!, I have given my opinion and I stick by my view on it untill I am proven otherwise, this is the last thing I will say on the matter as I am man enough to walk away as this conversation is not helping the indervidules who's thead it was started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Harrison View Post
    Is is not needed to preface comments that they are stating their opinion.

    It is implicit in this style of Forum bulletin board.
    Hm, how will others tell if I'm describing a fact or just rambling/role-playing then?

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    (now me on the other hand, as a Mod, you'll notice that when my signature is showing it does in fact state that what I say is my opinion. When the signature isn't there, I am being a Mod. )

    I have been testing the Man on Man marking with one of my teams. keep in mind, I have high physical stats on all my players...
    i have been keeping balanced formation with always five in each half.. and short passes. I have great possession most of the time. Team is currently winning it's League.

    But I use zonal else.
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    The answer is "Get a team of 9* players every season and you won't even care about zonal or man-to-man marking!!!!!!!!!!!!" Otherwise, just keep singing "I believe I can fly!!!!"
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    My bad. I just read Man on Man and chuckled. Easy guys! (ha chuckled again)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffs Mad View Post
    My bad. I just read Man on Man and chuckled. Easy guys! (ha chuckled again)
    Lol, I know!, its pathetic when people start saying "how can you possibly no this " or o wheres the manual that says you are right!, seriously!, that could said on every question on here that does not relate the official rules of the game!, there are plenty of managers on here that play with a favourite formation and have found what orders work best for them!, me included, and what- does not work so well, we then share with others OUR own point of view, other managers do not have to follow them!, it is a guide based on our OWN experience!, lol I can not believe Im even bothering to highlight certain words but feel I have no choice because of the Bible (manual) people on this forum that feel it necessary to critisize other people opinions when clearly they have no positive thought on the question in hand!, they offer no idea of there own lol, it is a real shame because I use this forum to learn new ideas and offer my personal experiences and hope offer help to other members, I am not perfect, far from it but if you other members feel I am wrong then please say so,I obvious must have mistaken this forum for being a positive place and so will leave if im wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidz View Post
    Lol, I know!, its pathetic when people start saying "how can you possibly no this " or o wheres the manual that says you are right!, seriously!, that could said on every question on here that does not relate the official rules of the game!, there are plenty of managers on here that play with a favourite formation and have found what orders work best for them!, me included, and what- does not work so well, we then share with others OUR own point of view, other managers do not have to follow them!, it is a guide based on our OWN experience!, lol I can not believe Im even bothering to highlight certain words but feel I have no choice because of the Bible (manual) people on this forum that feel it necessary to critisize other people opinions when clearly they have no positive thought on the question in hand!, they offer no idea of there own lol, it is a real shame because I use this forum to learn new ideas and offer my personal experiences and hope offer help to other members, I am not perfect, far from it but if you other members feel I am wrong then please say so,I obvious must have mistaken this forum for being a positive place and so will leave if im wrong.
    you are wrong. There is a manual for EVERY game worth its name and there is not one for this game. ok, you know what works for you but it is not necessarily going to work for everyone. A manual is something that works for everyone and covers every aspect of the game, something this game sorely needs.

    this forum could be a positive place but there is so much negative it is crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sully View Post
    you are wrong. There is a manual for EVERY game worth its name and there is not one for this game. ok, you know what works for you but it is not necessarily going to work for everyone. A manual is something that works for everyone and covers every aspect of the game, something this game sorely needs.

    this forum could be a positive place but there is so much negative it is crazy
    And you are causing alot of it!. I NEVER SAID IT WORKED FOR EVERYONE!.
    If we had a manual like you asked then this game would not be worth playing!, we would all follow it and do exactly the same thing for certain situations!, the outcomes would be the same!, there would be nothing to learn!, there would be no fun in the game!, it would be pointless!, as it stands we the players have to learn, build, train and manage our team, we win, we loose, we draw!, we look at other managers teams, tactics, and this gives us ideas about our own team!, we come to this forum for advice, to give our opinions off tactics, formations etc!, if we had a manual like you say then there would be no need for this forum!, there would be no need ask anything! we just turn to the manual and do what it says!, seriously!, this is a game! a free game, a competetive game!, if what you want is a maual then T11 is not for you!, you obviously want to go straight to the top and not work your way there!.
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