Top Eleven 2015

[TALON1973]

Losing 300 odd skillpoints because of an"update" is really pissing me off

[khris]

[Dman2pt]

It seems that you players Will save the SP If they have a pending offer from negotiations.

Just like the players for sale, cant be trained, but you can bid on them!LOL ( just thinking the money i can win with this)

[cookizzz]

I am a browser version users and use Android apps as supplementary tool. I tried the new Android apps with focus on the functions that I usually normally use with mobile phone. Here are my responses:

- In the past, the news were automatically filtered that only a small portion is marked as unread. Now, it seems many of them, probably all, are shown as 'unread'. It's hard to select important news to read.

- In squad overview, the arrows showing players move direction is difficult to notice. The percentage of condition & morale can no longer be clearly shown as figures, or is clearly shown as that in browser version.

- I like the new tactics maintenance screen even though I don't like its look.

- At this instance, my team have not yet needed training. But I believe that no training intensity option will be fine to me.

- I did not bid player through mobile phone in the past. But I love to find sorting is allowed in mobile version and may try if needed.

- For various competitions, competition prize information is still not available. But the new playoff tree are nice.

- It's good that club and shop are separated.

- On watching live match of friend, the formation of the team is not updated even though substitutions are shown. I also don't like auto switching to supporter screen when a new supporter is arrived.

- Nice to notice that the competition level of CUP is correctly shown (if my understanding is correct). My team is now level 18. My team is 1st runner up in CUP. In trophies screen, it shown that I was 5th for league level 17, 1st for CL level 17, and 2nd for CUP level 18

- The Tickets and Bonuses screens are good to show the bonus and ticket prices of league, CL, Cup and friendly matches at the same time. That's better than browser version.

- The stadium graphic is much better but is useless to me. In the past, I can easily figure out the purpose of each building, but not now.

Conclusion:
The new version may not the worst. But I do not want spend much time to adapt to it. If a similar version will apply to browser version, it is good chance for me to quit it all.

[cookizzz]

After further testing, generally speaking, the new version is not so bad as I originally feel. I love to find that same type of training can immediately be arranged for several times. I believe Nordeus forces automatically applying skill points upon generation because it does not like users accumulating skill points. However, as it is allowed to set training preference of each player beforehand, we can still control the areas the players will improve. I also believe option for developing special ability will be resumed soon as I cannot imagine if there is any difficulty. The interface layout is also acceptable for me.

However, this version is clearly a beta version that many features, including old ones, have not yet been implemented. This is unacceptable. Besides, even though I may understand that they don't want users accumulating skill points, I think this feature actually make this game different and attracted users who enjoy full control on players' area of development. Moreover, I still hate beautiful but meaningless graphics which just made the game slow and hard to use especially for small screen mobile phone users. I still prefer the old version which is similar in design to browser version so that I need less time to adapt.

I am a browser version users and use Android apps as supplementary tool. I tried the new Android apps with focus on the functions that I usually normally use with mobile phone. Here are my responses:

- In the past, the news were automatically filtered that only a small portion is marked as unread. Now, it seems many of them, probably all, are shown as 'unread'. It's hard to select important news to read.

- In squad overview, the arrows showing players move direction is difficult to notice. The percentage of condition & morale can no longer be clearly shown as figures, or is clearly shown as that in browser version.

- I like the new tactics maintenance screen even though I don't like its look.

- At this instance, my team have not yet needed training. But I believe that no training intensity option will be fine to me.

- I did not bid player through mobile phone in the past. But I love to find sorting is allowed in mobile version and may try if needed.

- For various competitions, competition prize information is still not available. But the new playoff tree are nice.

- It's good that club and shop are separated.

- On watching live match of friend, the formation of the team is not updated even though substitutions are shown. I also don't like auto switching to supporter screen when a new supporter is arrived.

- Nice to notice that the competition level of CUP is correctly shown (if my understanding is correct). My team is now level 18. My team is 1st runner up in CUP. In trophies screen, it shown that I was 5th for league level 17, 1st for CL level 17, and 2nd for CUP level 18

- The Tickets and Bonuses screens are good to show the bonus and ticket prices of league, CL, Cup and friendly matches at the same time. That's better than browser version.

- The stadium graphic is much better but is useless to me. In the past, I can easily figure out the purpose of each building, but not now.

Conclusion:
The new version may not the worst. But I do not want spend much time to adapt to it. If a similar version will apply to browser version, it is good chance for me to quit it all.

[spornybol]

After further testing, generally speaking, the new version is not so bad as I originally feel. I love to find that same type of training can immediately be arranged for several times. I believe Nordeus forces automatically applying skill points upon generation because it does not like users accumulating skill points. However, as it is allowed to set training preference of each users beforehand, we can still control the areas the players will improve. I also believe option for developing special ability will be resumed soon as I cannot imagine if there is any difficulty. The interface layout is also acceptable for me.

However, this version is clearly a beta version that many features, including old ones, have not yet been implemented. This is unacceptable. Besides, even though I may understand that they don't want users accumulating skill points, I think this feature actually make this game different and attracted users who enjoy full control on players' area of development. Moreover, I still hate beautiful but meaningless graphics which just made the game slow and hard to use especially for small screen mobile phone users. I still prefer the old version which is similar in design to browser version so that I need less time to adapt.

i get some features are are good especially for phone user`s apart from using their battery life but now they have neg list and a couple more option that they never had compared to laptop.

but as i said in earlier post i don`t the idea of auto assign skill point`s as i save 50 skill point`s to add new position/ability when i reach his target but if the league is tighter than a ducks ass at least i have an option too change my mind and improve player`s rating.

also with being higher level the prize money does not cover my wages, yesterday was 6 million down and that`s after playing a friendly too so i try too even my bank balance by leaving player/players` that i won`t be using 1 skill away from next star to earn that extra money plus earn those valuable tokens.

[Jernet]

I think I've made my view pretty clear re. missing ability to view condition percentages and fact that auto-assigment of skill points in the current gone-in-a-flash-b4-you-can-see-what-happens implementation takes the management out of a management game, which is not a brilliant idea ...!

However, 2015 contains some bugs as well:

For example, in Squad view, if you assign a morale booster to a player, the players' morale status arrow is not updated until you reload the page by going to another menu item and then back to Squad. Cost me a few boosters spent in vain b4 I realised there was a bug there ...

Also, the match overview windows very often load the star ratings of the teams you viewed the last time you opened the window, not the teams you are currently viewing.

I know I should report these through Support, but I can't be assed, because there's so much proceure stuff one has to go through to report a bug.

Thought you guys might wanna know, though, so that you don't spend morale boosters on nothing.

[cookizzz]

i get some features are are good especially for phone user`s apart from using their battery life but now they have neg list and a couple more option that they never had compared to laptop.

but as i said in earlier post i don`t the idea of auto assign skill point`s as i save 50 skill point`s to add new position/ability when i reach his target but if the league is tighter than a ducks ass at least i have an option too change my mind and improve player`s rating.

also with being higher level the prize money does not cover my wages, yesterday was 6 million down and that`s after playing a friendly too so i try too even my bank balance by leaving player/players` that i won`t be using 1 skill away from next star to earn that extra money plus earn those valuable tokens.

The new versions improve in some areas but all are not the areas I concern. It is clear that some financial problem is huge in higher levels. Nordeus is easy to make it more workable by adjusting some figures like league prizes, sponsorships and players' value but they just ignore these. No program change is required. I am really disappointed.

Allowing users to hold skill points may be a rare and unrealistic for football manager games but this makes this game different and attracts some users. I also hold skill points of some players to ensure they're easier to be sold. Personally I am fine without this but I fully support those users who smartly use this feature.

Furthermore, I frequently encounter network connection error on starting. The apps ask whether I want to retry but actually I have no choice but it will retry. I have to stop by kill the apps.

[Killroy]

Ok, a little more constructive criticism from me. Top11 is a good game which lacks visual stimulans. So where do you get the rewarding feeling from as a manager? The following rewarding feelings you did get in the old version:

1) Winning the match. Everybody knows it is fun to read the subtitles where the events are told. Always tension when a striker broke through of yours. Would he score or not? They made this a lot smaller in the new version. Don't know why.
2) After a game you would get skill points. That is a reward. It is fun to see that you got like 12 sp after a match and that you got a mvp. It was also a reward to see how your defense/attack/stamina would increase. You also loved it when you clicked that 5 star fast trainer of .9 to see him increase to the next level. Yes, a 6 star player.
3) Gaining exp. You also loved to see that some players got like 120 exp while others only got 30 exp. That made you think about the game and which players to buy. Did you want youthfull expensive players or just that 30 year old cheap player with good stats.
4) You would get a rewarding feeling from smart training. You would know that a player gets 5% in the next 15 minutes but is an hour away from a match. So you just do some light training to get some extra exp. And if you got some extra sp from that, it felt good. Your team just got a little stronger.

By auto-adding skill points all these rewards are gone from the game. You just get a brief message that your players have gotten some stat increased and that is it after a match. Poof, you just degraded the reward feeling by 80%. This to me is the biggest mistake that has been made. You have taken the control as a manager from us and expected that we are happy with less control. Just no. You also expect us to be happy with less rewarding feelings. From a psychology view this is the worst mistake you can make in a game. You have to have reward feelings or you do not play the game anymore.

Right now the game is loosing my interest fast and I regret that I bought some tokens a week ago. This is the result of the update and I think that many players have this same feeling. So a lot more players will drop this game unless it improves.

[myself07]

I had yesterday evening a game which I was not able to follow because ther were alot connection issues. I needed to relogin 6times during the game which prevent me to manage the team correctly.

This morning the same bofer thinking about great animates menüs etc.

In the beginning I said ok its a change but now I#m short before logout it no fun anymore only my 450 token prevent myself to quit.

Maybe I gave a similar game a chance and start from scratch....I know its only me but maybe there are more who think the same.

Not very amused about the situation and hope you fix it quick otherwise I guess Top Eleven is history

greetz