Top Eleven 2015

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@Fate85
I understand your point and I agree with some of your statements. I don't know if nordeus does care or not about people who play this game without spending money, but I think they should care. Reason: every active player "forces" other player to play better and smarter, to invest (spend) more etc. If there were only token buyers vs. bots, why would they have to buy tokens at all? Maybe only for official logo/jersey. Then this game would look like most of level 1 leagues, 13 bots and 1 active team.
Impressions about graphical design aren't that important as about gameplay.
If I'm not wrong, this forum should be useful for nordeus to get feedback from players (their customers) about game. If they don't want to listen us, then they can close this forum immediately because there is no point to keep it open.

Another point about players who don't pay is... Aren't they your target future payers? Now I'm sure some people get into the game and think 'right I'm gonna boss level 1 with a 7 star team, and spend a fortune doing it' but I bet there is a serious cohort of people who start off playing for free, get addicted, then when they get up the levels they start to 'need' to buy tokens to compete/ avoid bankruptcy.

I was on the cusp of that point: Im in my 8th season and manage 5 teams. I have proudly avoided token buyong up til now, but 3 of them are about to get youth academies. Since Christmas it dawned on me I won't have enough tokens to sign a player every 12 days when playing for free so I might need to start buying. Only a little, but £5 every 2 months X 5 teams would need some budgeting for me. I'm sure there are many others like me who gradually get sucked in.

So by alienating its current players, nordeus is cutting off a revenue stream it has been cultivating (using a loss leader model) for some time. Another me will take 8 months to start making money from.

I still haven't downloaded the app, so I only play on the laptop for a few minutes in the evening. I miss all the matches, so I don't feel so engaged in the game. Not saying I'll quit, not saying I won't. But the 'need' to spend money seems to have gone.

I'm not sure if nordeus care about this cohort of players like me, or how big it is, but the whole business model seems set up on getting people to this stage so I guess its quite big.

[Sully]

Another point about players who don't pay is... Aren't they your target future payers? Now I'm sure some people get into the game and think 'right I'm gonna boss level 1 with a 7 star team, and spend a fortune doing it' but I bet there is a serious cohort of people who start off playing for free, get addicted, then when they get up the levels they start to 'need' to buy tokens to compete/ avoid bankruptcy.

I was on the cusp of that point: Im in my 8th season and manage 5 teams. I have proudly avoided token buyong up til now, but 3 of them are about to get youth academies. Since Christmas it dawned on me I won't have enough tokens to sign a player every 12 days when playing for free so I might need to start buying. Only a little, but £5 every 2 months X 5 teams would need some budgeting for me. I'm sure there are many others like me who gradually get sucked in.

So by alienating its current players, nordeus is cutting off a revenue stream it has been cultivating (using a loss leader model) for some time. Another me will take 8 months to start making money from.

I still haven't downloaded the app, so I only play on the laptop for a few minutes in the evening. I miss all the matches, so I don't feel so engaged in the game. Not saying I'll quit, not saying I won't. But the 'need' to spend money seems to have gone.

I'm not sure if nordeus care about this cohort of players like me, or how big it is, but the whole business model seems set up on getting people to this stage so I guess its quite big.

I have 5 accounts as well. you need to start tanking every second season. I have minimum 5 star teams with many 6 star and a few 7 star EVERY season because of this. and the tokens pile up. At the start I had 10-30 tokens regularly, now all 5 accounts have 75-100 tokens. (I dont buy tokens btw)

want some advice? I only replace the weakest player OR the oldest in order to use the free youth player every 12 days.
Usually a few days before I get him, I search for the replacement of the oldest player or the weakest, or both. Then I wait. I have 7 days to sign him, once I get the replacement player, I sell the weak/old and wait for the youth.

My lowest level team is full of 18-22 year olds because he buys from my highest level team when it gets its free youth every 12 days.
Not only do I have 7 teams that are gaining tokens every season, but they almost always win the league in the years they dont tank. AND I go on a long run in both cups and CL.

PM me if you want more info.