I need some answers

[nikolgiorgos]

Ok, let's be serious.
I also have a doubt that individual abilities are really mean nothing.
I wonder if adding sp to attack or defense or m&p affect the way of playing in the game.
Now, with the new update, my believe is getting stronger.
Let's see an example of my 2 players from an older season.



the first, SANTOS, was a scout/list player and we know that those players have a balance in their abilities.
the other one was a fast trainer that had most of his gaining sp in Defense.
Even if the first had much more attack abilities, the second player, Muhd, scored 5 goals against 1.

So I have a thought in the back of my mind, that there is no Att/Def/M&P , it's just the quality of the player, meaning Q40> Q38 > Q37.

[t11_fan]

@Nik So you think that there is no point to train some skill more than some other?

[nikolgiorgos]

@t11
We both had attending science studying and you know that the basis of science is
Experiment > observation > conclusion - multiplying this > theory.

So, adding to the questions of my friend @ElPocho , some more as

-What is the right way to sign sp to abilities
-Is a special ability useful ?
-What is better, to give 50 sp for a special ability (for example corner specialist) or to give them to the attack skills of the player ?
-What is better, to give 50 sp to add an extra position or to give them to the quality of a player that can play out of position (example, a MR > AMR with a -2% penalty)
-How the arrows are working ? (e.g. what’s the difference between a MR with a red arrow and a AMR)
-How the win bonus is working ?
-How the injuries thing is working ?

I ‘ve read many posts about these things, I asked questions, but the only answers I read was starting with the expressions “I believe”, “I use to”, “I think” .
So, why so many experience players of the game don’t have any strong evidence or examples how those things are working ?

I can think two scenarios

-Most of those things are for the fan part ( or to look like a football simulation) or to give challenges to the players of the game.

-Those things have a very small effect in the process of the game. The game itself has a remarkable random effect in the process of a match, so we cannot figure out if and how those things affecting it.
e.g. maybe we have a player with a free-kick special ability (and I ‘m talking about a player that had this ability direct from the program- a scout/list or a nordgen) . Lets say that this sa gives him a +3% , but,
considering the quality of the player, the attacking skill of the player, the quality of the defender, the defending skill of the def., the form of the attacker, the form of the def., the morale and condition, if the player is tired from training or another match, if there is a win bonus, if someone of the managers is watching or not the game and the roll dice of the game
it’s impossible to have any solid conclusion.

[madame liberty]

How does the national players. If I have players of another country?

[nikolgiorgos]

it's just for the fun of the game and nothing more
(but I like to give some of my players, football legends profiles).

[madame liberty]

How long adaptation of new players (who came from the auction) in the team?

[t11_fan]

How long adaptation of new players (who came from the auction) in the team?

Hm, that's individual. Some players will have good performances from 1st match, some will need time and patience, some will never get in form.

[Shwan Chalabi]

i play game since 2013 .. in my experience ..nothing of mentioned matter, my best winger was right footed playing at left ..to win high balls is only related to heading special ability .. captain .. don't matter. my corner take is specialist, he is right footed and his assist is same from both sides
people over think it.. the game is made based on simpler calculations than what you think
for example, u have 15 skills, but no are used, the AI use only the 3 main category .. is just for decoration dear all those other features you mentioned

[t11_fan]

@Shwan Chalabi
Well, I agree with you. There are many factors which have influence on this game, but most of factors have tiny influence so it is really hard to find out if something has influence and how big that influence is. I'll try to explain it based on this example:
How to find out how useful Penalty Specialist is?
It's quite hard, isn't it? First of all, how many penalty kicks average team has in season? I strongly believe it's less than 10. And even if it is 10 or more, it still isn't enough to figure out how useful or helpful this Special Ability is - because player (penalty shooter) would have different performances in those matches and also there would be different keepers which also have different skills and performances. 1* defender can score from penalty and 9* striker can miss penalty so where are no certain borders.
Mine conclusion:
We shouldn't worry too much about single factors this game. Just play, relax and have fun. Don't forget that this game has primar task to earn money for someone, our fun is it's 2nd task

[Shwan Chalabi]

@Shwan Chalabi
Well, I agree with you. There are many factors which have influence on this game, but most of factors have tiny influence so it is really hard to find out if something has influence and how big that influence is. I'll try to explain it based on this example:
How to find out how useful Penalty Specialist is?
It's quite hard, isn't it? First of all, how many penalty kicks average team has in season? I strongly believe it's less than 10. And even if it is 10 or more, it still isn't enough to figure out how useful or helpful this Special Ability is - because player (penalty shooter) would have different performances in those matches and also there would be different keepers which also have different skills and performances. 1* defender can score from penalty and 9* striker can miss penalty so where are no certain borders.
Mine conclusion:
We shouldn't worry too much about single factors this game. Just play, relax and have fun. Don't forget that this game has primar task to earn money for someone, our fun is it's 2nd task

am seeing from my experience both as a player and as program developer
is a light game designed to be played online, with busy servers ... I doubt they will keep any variables during calculations if it has tiny effect
yeahh trying to understand the game is useless task .. as u said just enjoy and play
in my experience what matters are:
- form: players tend to play as good as near his average of last 5 matches, using the player too or not using him in tactic can effect it too, ex: if u attak on wings only, ur CMs will get less rate thus form drop, so be careful , bcz they will only score on rating by defending or trying to finish a chance
- average skills (Attack, def, phy)
- special ability : work at times , not often though
- condition : quality of skills reduce
- moral : player miss chances, make more fouls and mistakes
the rest i doubt enter to any calculation