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Buffs Mad Academy Output 03-25-2015, 11:45 AM
Steppenwolf This season 15T striker... 18... 03-25-2015, 04:59 PM
tongly45 from the season 7 when i... 04-14-2015, 10:47 AM
Steppenwolf 15T MC... good in 1st two... 03-25-2015, 05:01 PM
Steppenwolf 18T DL DC... Very good and... 03-25-2015, 05:07 PM
Steppenwolf 24T MC... Very good in debut... 03-25-2015, 05:05 PM
Amane Ito Young fast trainer require... 03-25-2015, 06:34 PM
Steppenwolf Motivation? You mean morale? 03-25-2015, 06:56 PM
nikolgiorgos I don't have much exp about T... 03-25-2015, 08:16 PM
Amane Ito Motivation is a hidden... 03-25-2015, 08:23 PM
Steppenwolf There is no hidden attribute... 03-26-2015, 03:43 AM
Sully how do you know this? unless... 03-26-2015, 08:00 AM
Qambu Yaasi Just signed an academy MC for... 03-26-2015, 12:22 AM
Amane Ito If there is no such stat,... 03-26-2015, 05:17 AM
Sully total BS. Im calling BS on... 03-26-2015, 11:49 AM
Qambu Yaasi Top 11 is 80% random and 20%... 03-26-2015, 08:31 AM
Amane Ito I just checked my top... 03-26-2015, 03:04 PM
Sully Sorry, what does this prove? ... 03-27-2015, 11:55 PM
Amane Ito What you say perfectly proves... 03-28-2015, 06:12 AM
Gert Funck What level are you?:confused: 03-28-2015, 08:36 AM
Amane Ito When I was leading 1:0 at 48"... 03-28-2015, 10:24 AM
TALON1973 No , that's just called 2... 03-28-2015, 05:11 PM
Sully More BS. I am tanking with... 03-28-2015, 11:18 PM
Steppenwolf There is only one hidden... 03-28-2015, 02:38 PM
Gert Funck I would still rather win,... 03-28-2015, 05:20 PM
Amane Ito Yeah, but the quality... 03-29-2015, 08:44 AM
Gert Funck I would like you to post the... 03-29-2015, 08:50 AM
Amane Ito Already done that at post #16 03-29-2015, 09:10 AM
Gert Funck Thanks, and sorry I missed... 03-29-2015, 09:19 AM
nikolgiorgos ha ha, nice :) so far I 've... 03-28-2015, 05:30 PM
Amane Ito Sully you totally missed the... 03-29-2015, 09:09 AM
Buffs Mad Feck, what did I start. >.< I... 03-31-2015, 09:40 AM
cookizzz According to my... 03-31-2015, 11:23 AM
gogs67 18T, trained his SA straight... 03-31-2015, 01:09 PM
Gert Funck Very nice stats, looks to me... 03-31-2015, 03:52 PM
Gert Funck I would like to stop this in... 03-31-2015, 04:01 PM
Buffs Mad Today up popped another 24T... 04-06-2015, 09:03 AM
nikolgiorgos I got mine today. No dilemma... 04-06-2015, 05:28 PM
Buffs Mad Well, nothing in his training... 04-06-2015, 06:31 PM
Gert Funck We didn't cuddle you, but... 04-06-2015, 06:39 PM
David Grizzle My first academy player came... 04-07-2015, 12:40 AM
HoofDaddy 42563 Just signed 21T,... 04-12-2015, 06:10 AM
Steppenwolf 3Q away from 5th star is the... 04-14-2015, 11:25 AM
nikolgiorgos an extra position AML would... 04-12-2015, 07:00 PM
HoofDaddy 42701 The stretching was... 04-13-2015, 02:39 AM
Steppenwolf 17% and 17.3% tells me... 04-14-2015, 11:29 AM
HoofDaddy 3 bar training 4278142782 04-14-2015, 02:16 AM
Steppenwolf 16.7%... still have no clue... 04-14-2015, 11:29 AM
tongly45 simply a medium trainer. at ... 04-14-2015, 02:14 PM
HoofDaddy Yeah fast trainers at at 80x... 04-14-2015, 02:36 PM
nikolgiorgos He is not slow/medium but not... 04-14-2015, 04:29 PM
HoofDaddy oh he did when he was 18,... 04-14-2015, 07:43 PM
Steppenwolf Quality and a half away from... 04-15-2015, 01:11 PM
Steppenwolf The fastest trainer I've ever... 04-16-2015, 11:56 AM
HoofDaddy nice pickup! good stats for a... 04-16-2015, 05:06 PM
Steppenwolf I needed a RB... The other RB... 04-16-2015, 05:20 PM
Steppenwolf Took only 41 rests to add him... 04-16-2015, 05:42 PM
David Grizzle Ya hoof in this game that is... 04-16-2015, 06:52 PM
Steppenwolf Wrong thread lol 04-16-2015, 07:07 PM
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    Sully you totally missed the point. Motivation is a factor that deals with individual players.
    Out of position has little to do with player form in one match, but have negative impact on his motivation for later games.

    When you have players with fluctuating form it is caused by non-optimal player management.

    Your answer is simple, how can you make your players form clean if you don't believe player performance could be manipulated? You will rely on luck because you don't know or never find out how to do it.

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    Feck, what did I start. >.< I only wanted to say that I wasted 24T on a player that wasn't worth it for either value or longevity (training). He played well but thats not the point. I didn't expect an 18T 4* player to be worth more than a player 5Q higher and I don't look to the Academy for performance but no development Sold his ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffs Mad View Post
    Feck, what did I start. >.< I only wanted to say that I wasted 24T on a player that wasn't worth it for either value or longevity (training). He played well but thats not the point. I didn't expect an 18T 4* player to be worth more than a player 5Q higher and I don't look to the Academy for performance but no development Sold his ass.
    According to my understandings, 24T academy player usually appear near the end of season and are higher in average quality (close to middle 4*). As they appear near the season end, they are less attractive to me. If academy player appear at start of next season, he is usually higher in quality (probably high 3* in next season, i.e. slightly better than those mid 4* players appearing near end of previous season) but cost probably 12 tokens only.

    I do not have too many experience on buying token academy players. I believe signing them is a gamble. They are likely fast in training but this is not guaranteed.

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    18T, trained his SA straight away and this includes 4 'tanking' seasons where he rarely played out of the 14 and a half seasons so far.
    I don't think he's ever had a drop in form in all that time, consistently scoring around 8.25 average every season with at least a third of his games he is MOM
    Just lucky I guess!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogs67 View Post
    18T, trained his SA straight away and this includes 4 'tanking' seasons where he rarely played out of the 14 and a half seasons so far.
    I don't think he's ever had a drop in form in all that time, consistently scoring around 8.25 average every season with at least a third of his games he is MOM
    Just lucky I guess!
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    Very nice stats, looks to me like he has been powertrained at some point but nice nevertheless
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    I would like to stop this in my oppinion lame motivation talk. I play with my best eleven every time and their performance is about just as good as some of the other managers who cuddles and caress their players.

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    I see no reason to vaste time in rotation systems like IRL (motivation is a hoax)
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    Today up popped another 24T Academy player so I decided to see if they were as crap as the last 2 when it comes to training.

    Immediate impression is......CRAP! MV is way lower than expected like the last one. Think I'm going to waste a lot of resources just to find out what my gut tells me..... its not worth it. But hey-ho.



    Hopefully because of early Cup rounds and CL I can give him a decent amount of matches.

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    I got mine today.
    No dilemma

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    Well, nothing in his training that encourages me and why would there be.

    Even if I round up his averages so far on hard: 38/72/100 compared with 47/96/140 benchmark Academy recruit. He's training, at best like a 5*
    (My 6* NordGem got 29/55/86 close to my 6* benchmark of 29/58/89

    And the worst thing is not one of you has offered me a virtual cuddle for these horribly low MV recruits. >.<

    *MEH*

    I'm off to write a strongly worded letter to Nordeus Towers.

    Dear Nordeus

    Why, oh why, oh why.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffs Mad View Post
    Well, nothing in his training that encourages me and why would there be.

    Even if I round up his averages so far on hard: 38/72/100 compared with 47/96/140 benchmark Academy recruit. He's training, at best like a 5*
    (My 6* NordGem got 29/55/86 close to my 6* benchmark of 29/58/89

    And the worst thing is not one of you has offered me a virtual cuddle for these horribly low MV recruits. >.<

    *MEH*

    I'm off to write a strongly worded letter to Nordeus Towers.

    Dear Nordeus

    Why, oh why, oh why.......
    We didn't cuddle you, but this forum surely warned you

    By the way you have closed the discussion about 24 tokens only comming at end of season. It must be and seems totally random. But if he is no better than a 15-18 token then its just really lame
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