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    Quote Originally Posted by Stive08 View Post
    i'm sorry but the game engine is way too unfair on stronger teams against weaker teams. I understand they want to make it realistic but it's a game not real football.

    Whats the point spending tokens and getting players that are strong when they struggle to out perform weaker ones. Even crazier is once games finish you can see the ratings of how your players performed and to your surprise you'll see they all got above 7-8 yet the other team had lower ratings and still beat you.

    Formation wise the weaker teams can beat you aswell even though you have the formation that has a big advantage over the other teams.

    Simply to make it fair they need to get the match engine to work like this, add up the average of the starting 11 star quality and in game aswell when you make substitutions. too figure out the result. Then make it only possible for a team with 1 full star average below your team only capable of getting a result against you because this is fair enough and not like it's now.

    This is the only way forward, too many players are starting to quit and getting fed up with the match engine. Once you start losing players this game will go dead like other games of this nature and you and me don't want that to happen.
    it is fair .. and smaller sides should have a chance to cause an upsets like in real life
    if you picked wrong formation or your strikers kept missing chances .. it happens in real life is part why we love football
    this game is not about piling up token and win matches only.. is about you standing up as a manager too .. what do you want? an option to buy game results by token too? Tokens give you the boost , the rest rely on you to make your team stronger .. what is the fun if you just need to buy best players and do any silly formation and still win? is that what you want?
    buying best players don't buy you trophies you need lots of hard work to turn the team into champions
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    Quote Originally Posted by shwanko07 View Post
    it is fair .. and smaller sides should have a chance to cause an upsets like in real life
    if you picked wrong formation or your strikers kept missing chances .. it happens in real life is part why we love football
    this game is not about piling up token and win matches only.. is about you standing up as a manager too .. what do you want? an option to buy game results by token too? Tokens give you the boost , the rest rely on you to make your team stronger .. what is the fun if you just need to buy best players and do any silly formation and still win? is that what you want?
    buying best players don't buy you trophies you need lots of hard work to turn the team into champions
    but thats the point i said tactically and formation wise you can do everything to have the advantage over the other team but still lose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stive08 View Post
    but thats the point i said tactically and formation wise you can do everything to have the advantage over the other team but still lose
    so did Sir Alex when we lost to Blackburn at home last season .. it happens .. you have to lose sometimes for no reason (although there is always a reason behind a lose)
    it is part of the package of being a manager
    it is why we love football
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    Quote Originally Posted by shwanko07 View Post
    so did Sir Alex when we lost to Blackburn at home last season .. it happens .. you have to lose sometimes for no reason (although there is always a reason behind a lose)
    it is part of the package of being a manager
    it is why we love football
    it's fine if it happens once or twice but more than that it shouldn't if you use the right tactics and everything else. but by just playing this game for a while there's too many games where it happens alot when it shouldn't.

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    here is another case where it is obvious that the game has decided who should win ahead of the game. My opponent plays a 3-5-2. I use the butterfly counter-formation from the "counter formations thread".

    My team is VASTLY superior to his. I dominate possession with 65-35 and yet he not only fires more shots (13-12 to him), but he manages to get 4 on target whereas my players manage to get a frikkin 3 shots on target from 12.
    Of course the other guy wins the game because unlike me, he manages to get 1-on-1 with the keeper more than once (my team did it exactly ZERO times in the entire games).

    At least my team shouldn't hit the target only 3 times when facing his inferior team?

    Game engine-game-engine-random.jpg PS! my team is on the right, and the formation seen in the pic is not the one i played the first 80 minutes with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullabaloo View Post
    here is another case where it is obvious that the game has decided who should win ahead of the game. My opponent plays a 3-5-2. I use the butterfly counter-formation from the "counter formations thread".

    My team is VASTLY superior to his. I dominate possession with 65-35 and yet he not only fires more shots (13-12 to him), but he manages to get 4 on target whereas my players manage to get a frikkin 3 shots on target from 12.
    Of course the other guy wins the game because unlike me, he manages to get 1-on-1 with the keeper more than once (my team did it exactly ZERO times in the entire games).

    At least my team shouldn't hit the target only 3 times when facing his inferior team?

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ID:	3143 PS! my team is on the right, and the formation seen in the pic is not the one i played the first 80 minutes with.
    the last week this has happened to me a lot of times. i have a scout team and i have lost 3 times in the league against deserted 3-4 star teams. i have won the cup and the cl against far inferior teams and i was in both games lucky cause they had much better shoots on/off target. nothing has worked properly for me. i don't know what formations to choose for next season. the counter formations failed me. i tried playing the same formations as my opponents but nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hullabaloo View Post
    here is another case where it is obvious that the game has decided who should win ahead of the game. My opponent plays a 3-5-2. I use the butterfly counter-formation from the "counter formations thread".

    My team is VASTLY superior to his. I dominate possession with 65-35 and yet he not only fires more shots (13-12 to him), but he manages to get 4 on target whereas my players manage to get a frikkin 3 shots on target from 12.
    Of course the other guy wins the game because unlike me, he manages to get 1-on-1 with the keeper more than once (my team did it exactly ZERO times in the entire games).

    At least my team shouldn't hit the target only 3 times when facing his inferior team?

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ID:	3143 PS! my team is on the right, and the formation seen in the pic is not the one i played the first 80 minutes with.
    Doesn't 3-5-2 Flat counter 3N-3N-2W-2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by July Fourth View Post
    Doesn't 3-5-2 Flat counter 3N-3N-2W-2?
    with such quality difference even playing illegal formation should win
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    can you post the match formation and stats
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    Quote Originally Posted by shwanko07 View Post
    can you post the match formation and stats
    no i wasn't complaining about myself since i'm top of my league and in the champ final, i was just talking in general because lots of people have been complaining about the match engine

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