Is something going wrong with the strikers lately ?

[Gert Funck]

My three wingers have outscored my two strikers 62-54 this season.

Gambit, my 7* ST has 20 goals
Wolverine, my 6* ST has 34 goals, but he takes all free kicks and PK's.

It's 25, 23 and 14 respectively for my wingers.

I smell an X-men theme

[Sakura]

I smell an X-men theme

Lol, one of my friends has a Marvel theme going on, I've seen quite a few themes in teams so far that have nothing to do with football.

[t11_fan]

Mine AM and ST stats.
Note:
Alvaro Morata is sub in my team and I often use V formations, so those AM's are usually wings although they can play AMC.

[nikolgiorgos]

this is my front line in Tigran, my team playing in lv2 (it's in semi-finals of CH.L. & Cup and 2nd in League)
The first two players, are common TM players (one is an ex-nordgen and the other ex-scout list player).
I bought them with 2-3 token
The other four are nordgens.
Zindros & Samaras (with a natural 1-1) bought as ST but as they were failing, I made the wingers.
When I put them as ST (as a pair with Mavros or someone else), they 're failing.
Their good stat are from winger position.
So that's my solution

Mavros stats, are fake. He scores in some easy games again very week or abandoned teams but when playing some serious games, he got a 7 and no goal (90%) unless he scores from F-K & penalty. I made him my kicker, to give him some good stats.
At least he is good in free-kicks.

[Sakura]

Xpanagis looks like a great player, multi positions, shadow striker, 33 goals with 17 assists and 10 man of the match, still only 20 years old.

[El Pistolero]

I looked at the top scorers list and there's only 1 striker in it and he's bottom of the pile. Most AMCs are goal scorers now.

[nikolgiorgos]

an update of this thread, one season after

Time for a little analysis about attackers. I ‘m gonna show the attackers from my teams.
Those are from TIGRAN, a lv2 team which is wealthy but I want to keep it and play as a 5* team.
This is one of my personal challenges of the game, to win a treble with a 5* team.
Now it’s 1st in the league (it’s secure) and playing semi finals in CH.L. and Cup.
Those first four players are nordgen (fast trainers).
XPANAGIS, playing usually as AMR-AML, the best attacker of the team. Sudden strike sa is working perfect for him.


SAMARAS, a ST I bought with “natural” sa one-to-one. He didn’t work well as ST, so I gave him AML. He is very good winger and free-kick specialist (from the left side). Some times when I set him as ST or 2nd ST (playing 3-5-2V), he gets the usual 7 and no goal.


MAVROS, my main ST. His stats looks much better than he ‘s playing – lol.

When he is playing vs weak teams (and I have a lot of those teams as opponents), ok.
He can’t score in one-to-one, only when he’s getting an assist from his team mates (corners, free-kick, passing). In games with good defense and GK, he gets a 7 and no goal.
He is also very good free-kick specialist from the right side. Almost half of his goals are coming from free-kicks.

SIDERIS is another fast trainer, ST, I bought this season. He couldn’t perform as ST, so I gave him AMR + sudden strike position. He performs excellent as winger. When I use him as ST, he gets a 7 and no goal.


JACKSON, is my back-up ST. His stats are better than he ‘s performing. When he ‘s playing vs weak teams with domination scores, he is scoring 1-2 goals. Playing as a 2nd ST or vs good defense, he gets a 7 and no goal. Gonna be sold in the end of the season, I hope for a good price.




My other team RINOKEROS, playing in lv5, it’s a 35T team.

This season, I decided to buy for 1st time 3 fast trainers.
I saved some green and reds from previous seasons (because I didn’t training my players at all), so for the fun of the game, decided to spend some.
I ‘m first in my league but with 2 other teams very close, playing also in CH.L. final 8 and in Cup semi-finals.
Those are my attackers
SUNDE is my AMR winger (I don’t use him as MR), a solid player I bought from the market this season.


BORJA is my AML winger, it’s the “flag” of the team, a unique player, scoring a lot, also from free-kicks, passing, even if he is now a 3* player.


MARADONA is the fast trainer I bought and gave him another extra position to make him all around winger. Another good and solid player.


BATISTUTA is a fast trainer and my main ST. After testing him in two friendly games, I also gave free-kick sa (maybe wrong decision, he doesn’t have it). He is scoring only in some easy games with domination scores. Against good defenses he gets a 7 and no goal. Too bad for his name-lol


CUVEJDEAN is my second ST, another lousy ST who gets 7 and no goal. I just keep him as a back-up, or a tree trunk I can set in my attack. The logic saying that I should sell him and find some other ST from the market, but no. This is what I was doing previous seasons, changing STs without any result , just spending my token. As the wingers are scoring, I just have one ST for filling the squad and not playing with “illegal” formation.




My third team is NIK FC, playing in lv17, it’s 1st in a very difficult league, playing also in CH.L. and Cup semi finals.
Those are the atatckers
WILLIAN, is my main left winger, is the star of the team. A fast trainer, very solid player, scoring a lot (top scorer in my league). Not much to say.


ZAGALLO, is my back up AML. He is a fast trainer, I wanted to use him in more games so I gave also ST position because as a winger he is a good scorer – but not as ST. When he is playing as ST, he gets a 7 and no goal.


RONALDINHO is a fast trainer I bought as ST. He can’t score so I gave him also AMR and AML positions. He is playing very good, usually as AMR, and as pair with WILLIAN playing very good. Both are top rated in my league. When I use him as ST, he gets a 7 and no goal.


RAMIRES is a fast trainer also. I bought him as MR with natural “dribbler” sa. I thought he could be good as a winger too but he can’t score so I use him as a MC too (or MR if playing 4-1-4-1).
** So , I bought another AMR-MR. I ‘ll see how it’s gonna be.



BARROS is a ST I bought from the market and I spend some good t for that. All wasted. When playing, he gets a 7 and no goal. Only in one game he played well. Just have him for back up. Gonna be sold in the end of the season.


DA SILVA is a fast trainer I bought. He can’t perform as ST. I tested him as AMR in one game and it seems that this is going to be his new position if I ‘ll decide to keep him in my team.


There is no point trying to find some other ST. This is another fast trainer I bought in the beginning of the season and I sold him after some bad performances.



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[nikolgiorgos]

So, I ‘m trying to write some observations (or tips) I had so far – it’s personal and I ‘m not sure if everything is right.

- ST position isn’t working – at least as few seasons before. Before that, it was also difficult but after some tries you could find some good or descent players.

-It’s not the players fault or “bad” program. When I give my STs new position as wingers, they ‘re playing good and score a lot.
- Also some STs I have are good in free-kicks but not in one-to-one.

- STs can perform good (and score 2-3 goals) vs weaker or abandoned teams where I have domination score but doing the usual performance of 7 and no goal vs good teams with 5* defenders. At least some time they’re giving assists to their team mates so they can get a rate of 8 instead of 7.

-Opponent defenders have the usual performances with rates of 7-8, nothing changed to that, but oppo GK are really spectacular. In older seasons if a GK made 5 or more saves in a game, it was a great performance but now is very common. I play two games, in three competitions and almost every day, in one game, oppo GK has 5 or more saves . The record of this season is 12 – LOL.
So, oppo GKs seems to have an advantage vs STs (possibly in one to one situations)
Bicycle kick of course is a movement that a STs has a 100% fail.

-Most of the players in top rated scorers of the leagues aren’t STs.
- STs of my opponents also have bad-mediocre stats.
- In the transfer market, things are worse.

-People who ‘re playing the game with the live animation, mention a lot of times that STs when have the ball in front of the GK, giving pass to another team player or just in the corner – lol. So, maybe it was a change of the program, when the new app started.

- If you find a fast trainer, who ‘s failing to perform as ST, give him a winger position.
- Adding also “sudden strike” sa, looks like a much better investment than “one to one”.

- It seems that increasing the quality of a ST is not enough to perform better.
- Also using 2 or 3 STs in a game doesn’t help.
- When I was playing vs teams with no players in the flanks (MR-L, AMR-L) 4-4-2 ND or 4-3-3, used to set a 3-5-2V. Now I prefer to use my extra player in MC or AMC position - 3-6-1V.
- Also tried a “park the bus” formation in a game 3-7V, no ST at all. I won but it was a weak team. Maybe to search more about this.

- I was talking with a fb friend and told me that he had an academy player, 21T, ST and he was thinking to sign and train him to 7* (he has about 400 greens).
Told him, not to waste his T and greens for a ST junior. If it was for another position, ok, but now for what ? To play for a 7 and no goal every second game ?

- And of course don’t buy a scout list Striker

Any other ideas ?

[FVS0777]

So, I ‘m trying to write some observations (or tips) I had so far – it’s personal and I ‘m not sure if everything is right.

- ST position isn’t working – at least as few seasons before. Before that, it was also difficult but after some tries you could find some good or descent players.

-It’s not the players fault or “bad” program. When I give my STs new position as wingers, they ‘re playing good and score a lot.
- Also some STs I have are good in free-kicks but not in one-to-one.

- STs can perform good (and score 2-3 goals) vs weaker or abandoned teams where I have domination score but doing the usual performance of 7 and no goal vs good teams with 5* defenders. At least some time they’re giving assists to their team mates so they can get a rate of 8 instead of 7.

-Opponent defenders have the usual performances with rates of 7-8, nothing changed to that, but oppo GK are really spectacular. In older seasons if a GK made 5 or more saves in a game, it was a great performance but now is very common. I play two games, in three competitions and almost every day, in one game, oppo GK has 5 or more saves . The record of this season is 12 – LOL.
So, oppo GKs seems to have an advantage vs STs (possibly in one to one situations)
Bicycle kick of course is a movement that a STs has a 100% fail.

-Most of the players in top rated scorers of the leagues aren’t STs.
- STs of my opponents also have bad-mediocre stats.
- In the transfer market, things are worse.

-People who ‘re playing the game with the live animation, mention a lot of times that STs when have the ball in front of the GK, giving pass to another team player or just in the corner – lol. So, maybe it was a change of the program, when the new app started.

- If you find a fast trainer, who ‘s failing to perform as ST, give him a winger position.
- Adding also “sudden strike” sa, looks like a much better investment than “one to one”.

- It seems that increasing the quality of a ST is not enough to perform better.
- Also using 2 or 3 STs in a game doesn’t help.
- When I was playing vs teams with no players in the flanks (MR-L, AMR-L) 4-4-2 ND or 4-3-3, used to set a 3-5-2V. Now I prefer to use my extra player in MC or AMC position - 3-6-1V.
- Also tried a “park the bus” formation in a game 3-7V, no ST at all. I won but it was a weak team. Maybe to search more about this.

- I was talking with a fb friend and told me that he had an academy player, 21T, ST and he was thinking to sign and train him to 7* (he has about 400 greens).
Told him, not to waste his T and greens for a ST junior. If it was for another position, ok, but now for what ? To play for a 7 and no goal every second game ?

- And of course don’t buy a scout list Striker

Any other ideas ?

Agree with 100% with all that, this season after having some problems with my team that always play wide with 1 max 2 I changed for a game or 2 to ND and a mixed of ND one of my strikers show a bit of improvement on performance scored some goal and had an 8 rating, but that was very little and next games back to square, so I had this player aml/amc and I training him as striker too and also shadow striker he was great at the beginning of the season while I used him as aml, after used him 2 or 3 games as striker he started to perform bad and even as aml he wasn't good so I didn't use him anymore as St and he is good again, best thing to do as you said not to invest in the strikers stick with some average one just to fill the position and wait until they get well again, which I believe it will soon.

[Killroy]

I got a fast trainer for my second team. Trained him to 7 stars with free kick ability. His start was spectacular. Second half he dropped a lot in scoring. Right now he is at 36 games, 36 goals and 14 assists. Not bad, but after his first 20 games or so he was already at 26 goals and 10 assists.

My main team has a 6 star striker and a 6 star striker with 1on1 sa. 6 star striker with 1on1 has 38 games, 14 goals and 5 assists. The other striker has 38 games with 5 goals and 4 assists. My wingers and MC's are scoring like mad though (in the top 5 of the league) so the mix is good, but the strikers are just weak.