Understanding role of Luck in top eleven

[nikolgiorgos]

Luck must be a part of this game because :
- It's also a part of the real football
- It's a way to make things uncertain or else the higher q team with a good manager would secure the championship (league or CH.L.) every season.

I agree that many times it takes a bigger part than it should be.
I started this thread, mostly to "explore" what form has the "Luck factor" in the game.
You and other members of the forum (like Celtic for example) saying many times that money is the purpose that those results happening.
Of course nordeus isn't a philanthropy foundation, it's an enterprise which without a profit cannot support the game or even this forum anymore.
But in which way you see that the game engine leads the players to spend more money ?
I can see in this forum more people (who spent money), complaining, than people who don't spend.
If you observing, did you noticed any pattern to lead to that conclusion ?

[Tactician]

Luck must be a part of this game because :
- It's also a part of the real football
- It's a way to make things uncertain or else the higher q team with a good manager would secure the championship (league or CH.L.) every season.

I agree that many times it takes a bigger part than it should be.
I started this thread, mostly to "explore" what form has the "Luck factor" in the game.
You and other members of the forum (like Celtic for example) saying many times that money is the purpose that those results happening.
Of course nordeus isn't a philanthropy foundation, it's an enterprise which without a profit cannot support the game or even this forum anymore.
But in which way you see that the game engine leads the players to spend more money ?
I can see in this forum more people (who spent money), complaining, than people who don't spend.
If you observing, did you noticed any pattern to lead to that conclusion ?

This is what I am saying. If if ever randomness is taking a bigger part than it should, then this is wrong.

It is not about the match results when I speak of about the business side. I speak about what happens in this game. Let me speak of one. I had a team in 2015. When I first started to buy tokens for this team, I have noticed some negative things happening. At that time, you can say ok it might be a coincidence. But, when you see the same things or very similar things happening for the other team after having done the same thing (that is the act of buying tokens), the probability of it being a coincidence has been significantly reduced. And when other users confirm the same, it further reduces up to where it can no longer be a coincidence. In other words, it has been programmed to occur. Another explanation to this might be cycles occurring in this game instead. Other than those two, there is nothing much as possible explanations.

I have noticed that too. People who don't spend money buying tokens don't seem to be affected, at least not to such an extent than those that buy tokens. This include the number of injuries occurring. So, there must be some sort of relation.

One example: the game tempts or forces the user to buy tokens or complete offers by putting him into situations like a lot of injuries (mostly occurring close to each other so that there are more chances that he will be out of red packs). In that case, either the user buy the red packs, sell the player and get another one or suffer some sort of disadvantage. The players that get injured in those periods are most likely selected. Either most players covering one position is taken out or a player that will be more likely be needed in the next important match will be taken out. Coincidence? If the user heals all the injured players, another 'storm' or 'half-storm' comes? Coincidence? I call this extortion.
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[Duncton]

Nice thread.

Luck must be a part of this game because :
- It's also a part of the real football
- It's a way to make things uncertain or else the higher q team with a good manager would secure the championship (league or CH.L.) every season.

I agree that many times it takes a bigger part than it should be.

Agreed.

I like the waveform. I often feel there's a 'team form' factor involved. I have series of matches where I just can't win, then things turn around and in the second half of the league I easily beat the teams I lost to earlier. I've also noticed that in the early stages of most leagues there's a team at a top position (1-4) who, based on quality, shouldn't be there. Probably that manager is having a good streak. Ofcourse, the better your team, the less it should effect you.

I think there's a roll of the dice, but it's based on individual actions instead of the match as a whole. For example, will my better defender block the opponent's shot (60-40), if not, will it beat my weak GK (70-30). Probably there's some calculation at the start of the match based on quality, formation, ....

As for making money, I think it works like every other FB game I've played. You want to do well? You can, without spending a single coin. You want to do better? Spend some money, buy some scouts, win some titles. It becomes a problem if luck is such an important factor that being the better team and/or manager doesn't matter anymore. But it's a balancing act, you don't want the best teams to become unbeatable. Although I do believe luck is playing too big a part at the moment, it's still the best teams and/or most dedicated managers who take home most titles. Could be worse.