[9th of May] - New version: Bug fixes and improvements

[Ahlony Wong]

I will reuse part of what I wrote on another thread regarding the "OMG with the new Training you need a lot of rests!!" issue.

The need for rests is not that high, and if you see yourself struggling for that, maybe you need to do some changes in your daily activities / training.

Remember we have increased the % of recovery every 3h to 6%, that means players gain 8% more condition than before, every day (1% every 3h more). In fact, they recover 48% condition every day.

In my personal case, I like to train after all daily matches have already been played, on late evening, before going to sleep. I know everyone will gain 18%-24% condition the next time I open the game, in the morning, and because no injuries can happen, I train as much as I want, to reach 10% on each bonus (defensive, offensive, condition and possession. I know they will be reduced by 2% by next day, but then I will be 8% on each and really close to be max again.

The only thing I consider is the upcoming match. If I have a match at 13h next day, I want to be sure they will be fully rested more than 3h before that match, so I can do a quick training in the morning (with 6% condition recover incoming) that will reach me to all 10% bonus again. As this is usually not enough, what I do is overtrain all players I have in my squad who never/rarely play, substitutes and others, so I can effectively reach this 10% (sometimes is not possible, but in these cases I get 8%'s and 10%'s mixed). Of course I watch videos to get the Special Trainer on every session.

So I end up with a fully recovered team with (almost) all training bonuses at 10% (maybe not, but having full 8% it's also very good). Then if you have 3 matches on a specific day, your players will actually be recovering faster than before -I already explained why- so the situation will be better than it was before the new training came up.

Sometimes I use the option to give +6% to all team for 8-9 rests, but not every day (I'd say I only use it once or twice a week), and sometimes I give +15% to an individual player. But that doesn't have a big impact in my rests. Right now I am in all three competitions, so that's a good example. In fact, I have more rests than I was able to accumulate before, and I don't watch any videos or buy them. I just keep collecting them from my medical building, daily gifts and making substitutions during a match.

Of course if you are trying to reach from 0% to 10% bonus in the morning BEFORE all your matches happen, you will end up needing a lot of extra rests. Don't do that, be smart and train after that, take advantage of the long periods that you won't connect at all (for many reasons, mainly because you need to sleep, work, school, etc). Make sure you have 22 players in your squad and use the ones who never play matches to get to these bonus without affecting your main squad.

3h for 6% enough? ...the problem is.... sometime i don't even have CUP...there are still 3 games scheduled a day...and somethime the games time are very close... like 10am... 1pm and then 5 pm...even i have 22 players, 10 am to 5 pm only has 7h in between, that is only 12% recover, a match only use 12% condition?? and between the game, the system force to have 2 training section for a "better preparation " for the up coming game.

so you suggest that we should ignore the training or just use a single "very easy" drill for 2 training and only training to the sub, not the main squad???

really?? if in that case, what is the point you create that new training system?? just for us to take a look and ignore it? and how could train the sub and get a better preparation for the main squad?

[Moi]

3h for 6% enough? ...the problem is.... sometime i don't even have CUP...there are still 3 games scheduled a day...and somethime the games time are very close... like 10am... 1pm and then 5 pm...even i have 22 players, 10 am to 5 pm only has 7h in between, that is only 12% recover, a match only use 12% condition?? and between the game, the system force to have 2 training section for a "better preparation " for the up coming game.

so you suggest that we should ignore the training or just use a single "very easy" drill for 2 training and only training to the sub, not the main squad???

really?? if in that case, what is the point you create that new training system??

This situation of having some official matches in the same day has not changed in Top Eleven for years (which every manager faces), there's nothing new about it with this release. As I mentioned, before 2015 release (January 2015) there was no way to get these hundreds of boosters daily from video offers, you could get some but not hundreds. And in relation to this, now players recover more condition than before. So, compared to the past situation, they need less rests.

Depending on which tactics you use a match will make your players lose more or less condition. Man to man and Hard pressing tactics will make your players lose more, while other tactics won't. And if you don't have a cup and you have 3 matches in one day, that means you will have many hours without any match (before or after these 3). Use these periods to train, go up in your bonus and leave your players fully rested afterwards.

Also, the system doesn't "force" you to do trainings, it's only a suggestion. "Better preparation" means more team bonuses, but you can manage to get very high bonuses by training the day before (before going to sleep for example) and leave your players to rest. That's what I do.

Then in the morning your bonuses will be all 8%, and you can quickly get them back to 10% if you have enough time to train before the next official match. If you don't have enough time, 8% bonuses are good enough anyway, or you can use some rests (not even close to 40 or 50) or you may settle for 8% bonus.

[Ahlony Wong]

This situation of having some official matches in the same day has not changed in Top Eleven for years (which every manager faces), there's nothing new about it with this release. As I mentioned, before 2015 release (January 2015) there was no way to get these hundreds of boosters daily from video offers, you could get some but not hundreds. And in relation to this, now players recover more condition than before. So, compared to the past situation, they need less rests.

Depending on which tactics you use a match will make your players lose more or less condition. Man to man and Hard pressing tactics will make your players lose more, while other tactics won't. And if you don't have a cup and you have 3 matches in one day, that means you will have many hours without any match (before or after these 3). Use these periods to train, go up in your bonus and leave your players fully rested afterwards.

Also, the system doesn't "force" you to do trainings, it's only a suggestion. "Better preparation" means more team bonuses, but you can manage to get very high bonuses by training the day before (before going to sleep for example) and leave your players to rest. That's what I do.

Then in the morning your bonuses will be all 8%, and you can quickly get them back to 10% if you have enough time to train before the next official match. If you don't have enough time, 8% bonuses are good enough anyway, or you can use some rests (not even close to 40 or 50) or you may settle for 8% bonus.

well... like i say in that case, what is the point of the new training system for normal free user? just for us to take a look if the rest only 3h +6%... that is useless for a full training.... a normal (or good) training section...usually - around 12-15%...which need 6 to 9hr to recover, and then + 2 to 3 match a day.... wow...enough?

and you know what, every time i didn't do the 2 training or just go for it easily (like only -7.5% for using 5 drill)...i lost the following game... that is every time happen to me (well, and every time I got the AM said "we are unlucky" or "they are very lucky" in report)

well.. for boosters...i never get over 100 a day, not sure for others, but i am not asking to get that back a lot, i am suggesting the rest recovery should be more. like 2hr +6 or 7% at least? which we can do some good training and face the game... if not, the whole new training system is useless to most of the players. that looks only build for the token buyers.

and the official matches in same day... i can understand some day 3 game a day if in CUP, CL and league.... but i just totally don't understand that why some time, even only have league and CL left, the system will still schedule 2 league in a day (one at 10am...one at 5pm) and one CL game (2pm) in the same day ....while after those 3 games in the same day...the next game will be the day after tomorrow (referee or AM need a day off??)...