Ridiculus draws

[Tactician]

I have said that changing things during matches no more has an effect as such as to what it was a month or so ago. I have spoken about things being more of less fixed. What you said simply consolidated what I have observed.

Al Svanberg,
The most obvious was last season's final association round where we couldn't manager our teams. I lost the 1st leg 0-3, but won the 2nd leg 5-1. My opponent attended both legs. I used a different setup for the 2nd leg.

Opponent attended but could not change the overall outcome of the second leg.

What I think is happening is there is a set of orders that is in preference with the game engine and periodically throughout the match a re-calcuation occurs, but the in-favor preference stays the same. Nordeus however, periodically changes the in-favor preference w/o notifying us players.

Possible, especially after what I have seen lately. But then, this is not appropriate at all. This does not make any sense in terms of football and tactics. Say the preferred orders set for a particular team were hard defending and counter-attacks for a period; so during that period, for this team, this would have been among the 'right orders' to be used for facing any team, even much weaker teams using whatever decent formation and orders. Using hard attacking, attacking or even normal will not appear to work; using logic orders and/or counter formations will not appear to work; you will even lose matches (and you will say that you got trolled). You would use hard defending and counter-attacks, you would get a lot of goals and you will win matches easily. This shows how possibly things are fixed as such, hence to why many users got the impression that some matches have been fixed and no matter what they tried to do in those matches, the overall outcome did not change as such.

Latest scenario. (see: http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...tml#post417931)
Out of curiosity, I logged in a few hours ago to check how my team did in my absence. The team beat everyone 'on its own', including 2 teams that beat it this season itself. No managing, no training, no condition and morale boosting and so on involved. The team even went on a streak of clean sheets. The team is still on for the treble; first in the league, in the Cup semi final and still in the Champions League.

(1) A team from one level above, beat my team 4-1 in an away Cup match (when I was playing seriously, did training, boosted morale, did other managing things and so on, and the opposing manager attended), and my team beat it 5-0 in the home match (where I did not attend, did not do any training and so on) and knocked the other team out of the competition. Aggregate score: 6-4; the opposing manager must have been pissed after that second leg.

(2) My team, again 'on his own', beat another team where the manager attended. From the report, it is clear that the manager tried to change things, but still lost by two late goals.

(3) The team, again 'on his own', beat another team that beat me earlier this season.

Who 'moved the tide' in those 3 cases? Let's see what some people here who like to defend this game or justify things in favor of the game or the company have to say.

'Funny' how hard work brought undeserving losses while no work and no care brought wins, and not only wins, but significant wins (and even 'turn the tide') that ensured that the team is still in the Cup and the Champions League, and also still first the league by beating teams in the top part of the table. It even won 6-0 in the C.L against a team that was using a formation that should in fact have nullified the formation it was using. Where are the effects of management, tactics, counter formations, and so on? All this comes back to something I have said in another post: it is not a matter of winning or losing; the problem in this game is how you win or lose these days. There is no football sense at all.

Another 'funny' one: the test teams I have created to make tests were first and second in the same league the last time I logged in their accounts. No management, 0 win bonus, 0 training bonus, and so on. I even got a draw after 120 min of match play in a friendly against Mourinho F.C using one of the test teams (weaker team than Mourinho F.C) with 0 win bonus, 0 training bonuses and average moral (this one I used counter formation and orders though, but still the response during the match due to changes made was poor; it is likely that what was set before the match started brought the draw); Mourinho F.C won on penalties.

Or maybe there is something that was put in this game deliberately to target active users to increase the chance of them spending more? One thing is almost for sure: some things have been deactivated or rolled-back recently for whatever reasons. These include things related to the responsiveness of the game in relation to changes made during matches.