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    Quote Originally Posted by funqer View Post
    Thats absolutely true... and the GK is always MOM... but ok, if any of those mentioned doesn't matter any more, why should we bother to make a good team (120% and +)? we play with a 85-90% quality and beat any team. because that's what i get so far with all those surprise results...
    Everyone has noticed that indeed, from time to time, you win games that you should not. And the other way round too. But do not make confusion between what "you see" in the live animation and what happens in the heart of the game engine. I agree that animations are mostly cosmetic but I completely disagree about the fact that tactical changes have no effect. Switching 4-5-1V from flanks to middle DO have an effect even if it's not shown by animations. But there are things that animations will show you. For instance, play with normal or offensive settings: every time you'll see your players starting their attacking moves from THEIR side, you are 100% certain that they'll eventually lose the ball and that you are in danger. If you go for defensive, you'll see dangerous (sometimes successful) attacking moves starting from your side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gizzmo View Post
    Everyone has noticed that indeed, from time to time, you win games that you should not. And the other way round too. But do not make confusion between what "you see" in the live animation and what happens in the heart of the game engine. I agree that animations are mostly cosmetic but I completely disagree about the fact that tactical changes have no effect. Switching 4-5-1V from flanks to middle DO have an effect even if it's not shown by animations. But there are things that animations will show you. For instance, play with normal or offensive settings: every time you'll see your players starting their attacking moves from THEIR side, you are 100% certain that they'll eventually lose the ball and that you are in danger. If you go for defensive, you'll see dangerous (sometimes successful) attacking moves starting from your side.
    Live animation may be just cosmetics, but if I change tactics the result still doesn't change and then live animation is just useless compared to other game. If it's there I'd like to be useful to actually see how my team is performing and should be faithful (well mostly at least) to what is actually happening.
    What you say about normal or offensive mentality usually happen anyway from what I experienced, and if defensive gives more chances of starting effective attacking moves, then why does attacking mentality even exist? If I need a comeback and use attacking, I lose the ball more. I should have gone defensive. Wow, fat chance! I also conceded goals on counter attack while playing defensive which is nonsense. I needed to score a few goals today with my 4-5-1V and changed tactics to no effect (see my last opened thread).
    Either live animation has to be more faithful, or the game engine should be more transparent and give more feedback if you are doing good, because if he generates crap on random without refleting your decision then we are just pretty much playing blind. The AM is also pretty much useless on giving hints..
    I've seen too much crap to accept anything coming from this game (nothing personal on you )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyltyl View Post
    What you say about normal or offensive mentality usually happen anyway from what I experienced, and if defensive gives more chances of starting effective attacking moves, then why does attacking mentality even exist? If I need a comeback and use attacking, I lose the ball more. I should have gone defensive. )
    Again, I'm not saying that defensive play gives more chances: just that animations will show something different. That's it. The truth for me is: whatever the animation shows, the important thing remains the settings. But at least, that one thing gives me a piece of information about my oppo.
    I agree that animations have plenty of room for improvement though !!
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