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    Yes animations is a bit of **** right now.

    But it is true that you can retrieve some info from it.

    For example you can easily see if your oppo plays defensive mentality, as his defense and all players will be way too deep close to penalty area.

    Also you can see how you lose chances, so when you miss opportunities that for other games are a sure goal, you can close the app as you are going to get trolled
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloverfield View Post
    Yes animations is a bit of **** right now.

    But it is true that you can retrieve some info from it.

    For example you can easily see if your oppo plays defensive mentality, as his defense and all players will be way too deep close to penalty area.

    Also you can see how you lose chances, so when you miss opportunities that for other games are a sure goal, you can close the app as you are going to get trolled
    I like the fact that now what before was a sure goal, now it becomes a missed opportunity. Before when you saw a fast counter-attack it was a 100% goal, now the player can even miss to an empty goal. Which is nice, because it was boring to see actions and already knowing how they would have ended.
    Aside from that, the simulation is total BS compared to other games that I tried these days. Since the game engine wasn't very clear to start with, with many flaws and unclear points, maybe it wasn't good to implement a "live" simulation if it's so misleading. We make tactical choice without a real validation, the commentary is also so-so. The only way to unterstand if your choices are working is to see if you are scoring without conceding (aka: winning = ok), and also if everything seems to be on your side, it's not and you lose badly without knowing why. We should be able to see if our player are having trouble getting through the defense, if we should keep pushing on the side or through the center and finding spaces, if our defense is not holding or not.
    The AM is total bullcrap, he suggests to stop tackling hard even if you are winning 7-0 without conceding a free kick. Set "hard attacking" and 3 ST and he says to be more offensive. Stats are usually off and has been covered in several threads.
    Really, I think we miss that visual (or textual) validation on how our teams are holding. Instead with time and experience, I see that playing counterattack is useless, you will still score no matter how, maybe even on counterattack. I will stop playing counter formations since they just don't work right and mean nothing (or close to). In association is just a random mess of random results between strong a weak teams.
    There are so many unclear points in this game, that for me now after years is pretty much useless to talk about, because everyone has a personal idea and you would get your own with different results. You never get an official explanation. Do SA really work? Would a player be the same without a SA? Do SA depend on skills? Maybe they do, maybe they don't. I have CK and FK specialists trained just for that and they just suck. The only ones that seem to work are the defensive ones, but I will never be sure if the players would be as good without.

    Yeah, I sound bored, I gave this game so many chances and it's missing many of them, especially lately.
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