[Official] Top Eleven 6.3 - 15th of December

[Kaizer Franz]

Rather than moan. Offer a solution to the games problems such as Vietnamese training, tanking and association exploits. Let's say we don't touch skill attributes as that upsets you. You could offer solutions such as.

Game engine fix so usain bolt style players have effectiveness reduced significantly.

Tanking. Tokens for league places or 20% reduction for all teams.

Associations. Make it so draw based on best 7 players. And teams cannot rejoin same association for 4 weeks.

Any other ideas? Try and help!!

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I have ever tried to help by suggesting some adjustement in association loan and in the skills distribution !
This is what you said , no ? try and help ? So you meaned that i only give critics and never help ! Strangly you are not the first to tell that ! It is amazing the capacity of the forum users to remember only what suit them ... i invite you to read my 464 first posts in this forum before !

So i sometimes ( rarely for sure , but really good suggestions are not millions ) give suggestions ! I don't give help anymore because i don't want other peoples uses my tacticals in managing , but it is my choice and you have to respect that unless you are a moron ...

So i give suggestions and when i give it , be sure they have been long time elaborated to not purpose silly things like 80% of suggestion i have read here !

The last silly suggestion ( completly silly ) was a min cap of 50% ! I don't remember who told about this but i think he need a new brain cause imagine you buy a 40% players , how could this work ????? big LOL

[rogerniceguy]

I have ever tried to help by suggesting some adjustement in association loan and in the skills distribution !
This is what you said , no ? try and help ? So you meaned that i only give critics and never help ! Strangly you are not the first to tell that ! It is amazing the capacity of the forum users to remember only what suit them ... i invite you to read my 464 first posts in this forum before !

So i sometimes ( rarely for sure , but really good suggestions are not millions ) give suggestions ! I don't give help anymore because i don't want other peoples uses my tacticals in managing , but it is my choice and you have to respect that unless you are a moron ...

So i give suggestions and when i give it , be sure they have been long time elaborated to not purpose silly things like 80% of suggestion i have read here !

The last silly suggestion ( completly silly ) was a min cap of 50% ! I don't remember who told about this but i think he need a new brain cause imagine you buy a 40% players , how could this work ????? big LOL

Oh man you're so funny 🤣 Funnily enough I have no desire to read all your old sad posts. Not unless I was suffering from insomnia.

I love how you resort to calling anyone who doesn't agree with you a noob or a moron. It's like you have no imagination to have a proper and reasonable adult debate in a sensible manner.

Can you actually show your ideas to help solve the games problems and get back on topic or do you want to just keep insulting and being a sad wind up and internet troll?

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[Kaizer Franz]

Oh man you're so funny 🤣 Funnily enough I have no desire to read all your old sad posts. Not unless I was suffering from insomnia.

I love how you resort to calling anyone who doesn't agree with you a noob or a moron. It's like you have no imagination to have a proper and reasonable adult debate in a sensible manner.

Can you actually show your ideas to help solve the games problems and get back on topic or do you want to just keep insulting and being a sad wind up and internet troll?

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i don't have to show my suggestions ! I give them and i know what i told ! So if you are a lazy man , it is not my problem !
And i give suggestions 2 or 3 pages ago in this thread but you maybe have a fish memory and one thing i am very angry about is to say the same things several times you know !

But what i say 2 or 3 pages previously is :
_put the max cap from 340 % to 400% min
_alow to re-localise lost skill point in others skills

And to focus on topic , Nordeus never warned us about the skill points which are now lost when we train a player with a drill that enhance one 340% drill and 2 or 3 others drill !

The only pathetic response has beeen to focus on other skills lol ! it's a shame !

And yes i can have a proper and reasonnable debat but only with people who know perfectly how the game works and with the few post of you i have read i don't think you are in this case with your only twenty seasons !

because if you really know how the game work , how can you purpose a 50% min cap ????? HOW ? it is incredible ! I will repeat it again , buy a 40% players and tell me how could your suggestion work ? Answer this instead of speaking of others subject in order to avoid this !

[rogerniceguy]

i don't have to show my suggestions ! I give them and i know what i told ! So if you are a lazy man , it is not my problem !
And i give suggestions 2 or 3 pages ago in this thread but you maybe have a fish memory and one thing i am very angry about is to say the same things several times you know !

But what i say 2 or 3 pages previously is :
_put the max cap from 340 % to 400% min
_alow to re-localise lost skill point in others skills

And to focus on topic , Nordeus never warned us about the skill points which are now lost when we train a player with a drill that enhance one 340% drill and 2 or 3 others drill !

The only pathetic response has beeen to focus on other skills lol ! it's a shame !

And yes i can have a proper and reasonnable debat but only with people who know perfectly how the game works and with the few post of you i have read i don't think you are in this case with your only twenty seasons !

because if you really know how the game work , how can you purpose a 50% min cap ????? HOW ? it is incredible ! I will repeat it again , buy a 40% players and tell me how could your suggestion work ? Answer this instead of speaking of others subject in order to avoid this !

Listen I'm sure we agree on many things. Your problem is when you don't agree you can't help but to be an insulting individual. You are one sad angry man.

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[Kaizer Franz]

Listen I'm sure we agree on many things. Your problem is when you don't agree you can't help but to be an insulting individual. You are one sad angry man.

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I 'm laughing now because you still avoid my question due to your lack of knowledge in this game and because you know i am right !
Come on guys ! answer !
How could a 50% min cap (you suggest ion ) work on players less than 50% average ?

what ? 50 bottom end cap not max ? what is this ? lol

[rogerniceguy]

I 'm laughing now because you still avoid my question due to your lack of knowledge in this game and because you know i am right !
Come on guys ! answer !
How could a 50% min cap (you suggest ion ) work on players less than 50% average ?

what ? 50 bottom end cap not max ? what is this ? lol

50 bottom end cap for a player coming into the game as a 5 star. There done. Happy? Lol

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[Kaizer Franz]

other question !

You seem to be agree with the 20% reduction each season whatever you do , finishing on the 8 first places or the last 8 ! Am i right ?
You actually be succesfull in all your competitions as you said previously !
Now imagine !
You win league trophy , you level up and your 115% team become a 95% team on day one of new season !
another guy in your new season league , who failed to promote was at 105% and now is 85%

You find this fair situation ?
imagine one time you also fail to promote !!!! do you will be agree to have a 20% reduction and be honest please cause i really think most people will come on this forum to exhaust their big rage if those " great " idea is released , be sure of this !

The only good suggestion about tanking it is nikos who bring it to us ! It is a suggestion which doesn't stop tanking but limit it in the time !
Excuse me , tell me if i am wrong , but you are one of those who proudly claim that tanking is cheating ??? if i am right , first thing , i am pretty sure you never tank so you don't know what about you talk at all ! Tanking defenitly isn't cheat ! it s an option BUT it must not been used in a abusive way ! What is abusive ? It is like the team of the first FA group in te world ( chasseurs de jannah ) ! they tank since season ONE for some of their accounts , they tank 10 seasons consecutivly ! THIS can be called " cheat " , but tanking one , or two seasons isn't cheat at all and there is no problem with it !

So nikos's suggestion was good because he purpose to limit the capacity to tank only 2 consecutive seasons , but we can extend it to 3 seasons max i think !

[rogerniceguy]

other question !

You seem to be agree with the 20% reduction each season whatever you do , finishing on the 8 first places or the last 8 ! Am i right ?
You actually be succesfull in all your competitions as you said previously !
Now imagine !
You win league trophy , you level up and your 115% team become a 95% team on day one of new season !
another guy in your new season league , who failed to promote was at 105% and now is 85%

You find this fair situation ?
imagine one time you also fail to promote !!!! do you will be agree to have a 20% reduction and be honest please cause i really think most people will come on this forum to exhaust their big rage if those " great " idea is released , be sure of this !

The only good suggestion about tanking it is nikos who bring it to us ! It is a suggestion which doesn't stop tanking but limit it in the time !
Excuse me , tell me if i am wrong , but you are one of those who proudly claim that tanking is cheating ??? if i am right , first thing , i am pretty sure you never tank so you don't know what about you talk at all ! Tanking defenitly isn't cheat ! it s an option BUT it must not been used in a abusive way ! What is abusive ? It is like the team of the first FA group in te world ( chasseurs de jannah ) ! they tank since season ONE for some of their accounts , they tank 10 seasons consecutivly ! THIS can be called " cheat " , but tanking one , or two seasons isn't cheat at all and there is no problem with it !

So nikos's suggestion was good because he purpose to limit the capacity to tank only 2 consecutive seasons , but we can extend it to 3 seasons max i think !

Question for you. Have you read all my posts? My main issue with tanking is league integrity. Where you get teams who tank v a main league rival and then play full strength v your team or maybe the other way round and you benefit. One team wins 10 nil. The other maybe loses, draws or gets a small win. Fair?

I have advocated a similar solution to niko also. Say allow tank 1 in 5 seasons to allow for people taking a break or holidays. If you read my post to you earlier I also suggested a possible solution being to put tokens on league 1 to 8. Designed to encourage people to do well in the league. Any thoughts? Or do you want to sit there insulting anything I say? Why is that?

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[rogerniceguy]

other question !

You seem to be agree with the 20% reduction each season whatever you do , finishing on the 8 first places or the last 8 ! Am i right ?
You actually be succesfull in all your competitions as you said previously !
Now imagine !
You win league trophy , you level up and your 115% team become a 95% team on day one of new season !
another guy in your new season league , who failed to promote was at 105% and now is 85%

You find this fair situation ?
imagine one time you also fail to promote !!!! do you will be agree to have a 20% reduction and be honest please cause i really think most people will come on this forum to exhaust their big rage if those " great " idea is released , be sure of this !

The only good suggestion about tanking it is nikos who bring it to us ! It is a suggestion which doesn't stop tanking but limit it in the time !
Excuse me , tell me if i am wrong , but you are one of those who proudly claim that tanking is cheating ??? if i am right , first thing , i am pretty sure you never tank so you don't know what about you talk at all ! Tanking defenitly isn't cheat ! it s an option BUT it must not been used in a abusive way ! What is abusive ? It is like the team of the first FA group in te world ( chasseurs de jannah ) ! they tank since season ONE for some of their accounts , they tank 10 seasons consecutivly ! THIS can be called " cheat " , but tanking one , or two seasons isn't cheat at all and there is no problem with it !

So nikos's suggestion was good because he purpose to limit the capacity to tank only 2 consecutive seasons , but we can extend it to 3 seasons max i think !

The problem with having an "option" is that people are human beings. Being competitive people with abuse or exploit every "option". How do you stop people abusing the options is the question?

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[Kaizer Franz]

The problem with having an "option" is that people are human beings. Being competitive people with abuse or exploit every "option". How do you stop people abusing the options is the question?

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you can't , it is as simple as that coz what i ever said is " you can do whatever you want , people will always find a way to exploit something ! i ' m pretty sure some teams still leave their asso between each week end to have the daily 5 green packs max amount to train between association members lol


So you can't avoid people to exploit !