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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz View Post
    i don't have to show my suggestions ! I give them and i know what i told ! So if you are a lazy man , it is not my problem !
    And i give suggestions 2 or 3 pages ago in this thread but you maybe have a fish memory and one thing i am very angry about is to say the same things several times you know !

    But what i say 2 or 3 pages previously is :
    _put the max cap from 340 % to 400% min
    _alow to re-localise lost skill point in others skills

    And to focus on topic , Nordeus never warned us about the skill points which are now lost when we train a player with a drill that enhance one 340% drill and 2 or 3 others drill !

    The only pathetic response has beeen to focus on other skills lol ! it's a shame !

    And yes i can have a proper and reasonnable debat but only with people who know perfectly how the game works and with the few post of you i have read i don't think you are in this case with your only twenty seasons !

    because if you really know how the game work , how can you purpose a 50% min cap ????? HOW ? it is incredible ! I will repeat it again , buy a 40% players and tell me how could your suggestion work ? Answer this instead of speaking of others subject in order to avoid this !
    Listen I'm sure we agree on many things. Your problem is when you don't agree you can't help but to be an insulting individual. You are one sad angry man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerniceguy View Post
    Listen I'm sure we agree on many things. Your problem is when you don't agree you can't help but to be an insulting individual. You are one sad angry man.

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    I 'm laughing now because you still avoid my question due to your lack of knowledge in this game and because you know i am right !
    Come on guys ! answer !
    How could a 50% min cap (you suggest ion ) work on players less than 50% average ?

    what ? 50 bottom end cap not max ? what is this ? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz View Post
    I 'm laughing now because you still avoid my question due to your lack of knowledge in this game and because you know i am right !
    Come on guys ! answer !
    How could a 50% min cap (you suggest ion ) work on players less than 50% average ?

    what ? 50 bottom end cap not max ? what is this ? lol
    50 bottom end cap for a player coming into the game as a 5 star. There done. Happy? Lol

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    other question !

    You seem to be agree with the 20% reduction each season whatever you do , finishing on the 8 first places or the last 8 ! Am i right ?
    You actually be succesfull in all your competitions as you said previously !
    Now imagine !
    You win league trophy , you level up and your 115% team become a 95% team on day one of new season !
    another guy in your new season league , who failed to promote was at 105% and now is 85%

    You find this fair situation ?
    imagine one time you also fail to promote !!!! do you will be agree to have a 20% reduction and be honest please cause i really think most people will come on this forum to exhaust their big rage if those " great " idea is released , be sure of this !

    The only good suggestion about tanking it is nikos who bring it to us ! It is a suggestion which doesn't stop tanking but limit it in the time !
    Excuse me , tell me if i am wrong , but you are one of those who proudly claim that tanking is cheating ??? if i am right , first thing , i am pretty sure you never tank so you don't know what about you talk at all ! Tanking defenitly isn't cheat ! it s an option BUT it must not been used in a abusive way ! What is abusive ? It is like the team of the first FA group in te world ( chasseurs de jannah ) ! they tank since season ONE for some of their accounts , they tank 10 seasons consecutivly ! THIS can be called " cheat " , but tanking one , or two seasons isn't cheat at all and there is no problem with it !

    So nikos's suggestion was good because he purpose to limit the capacity to tank only 2 consecutive seasons , but we can extend it to 3 seasons max i think !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz View Post
    other question !

    You seem to be agree with the 20% reduction each season whatever you do , finishing on the 8 first places or the last 8 ! Am i right ?
    You actually be succesfull in all your competitions as you said previously !
    Now imagine !
    You win league trophy , you level up and your 115% team become a 95% team on day one of new season !
    another guy in your new season league , who failed to promote was at 105% and now is 85%

    You find this fair situation ?
    imagine one time you also fail to promote !!!! do you will be agree to have a 20% reduction and be honest please cause i really think most people will come on this forum to exhaust their big rage if those " great " idea is released , be sure of this !

    The only good suggestion about tanking it is nikos who bring it to us ! It is a suggestion which doesn't stop tanking but limit it in the time !
    Excuse me , tell me if i am wrong , but you are one of those who proudly claim that tanking is cheating ??? if i am right , first thing , i am pretty sure you never tank so you don't know what about you talk at all ! Tanking defenitly isn't cheat ! it s an option BUT it must not been used in a abusive way ! What is abusive ? It is like the team of the first FA group in te world ( chasseurs de jannah ) ! they tank since season ONE for some of their accounts , they tank 10 seasons consecutivly ! THIS can be called " cheat " , but tanking one , or two seasons isn't cheat at all and there is no problem with it !

    So nikos's suggestion was good because he purpose to limit the capacity to tank only 2 consecutive seasons , but we can extend it to 3 seasons max i think !
    Question for you. Have you read all my posts? My main issue with tanking is league integrity. Where you get teams who tank v a main league rival and then play full strength v your team or maybe the other way round and you benefit. One team wins 10 nil. The other maybe loses, draws or gets a small win. Fair?

    I have advocated a similar solution to niko also. Say allow tank 1 in 5 seasons to allow for people taking a break or holidays. If you read my post to you earlier I also suggested a possible solution being to put tokens on league 1 to 8. Designed to encourage people to do well in the league. Any thoughts? Or do you want to sit there insulting anything I say? Why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz View Post
    other question !

    You seem to be agree with the 20% reduction each season whatever you do , finishing on the 8 first places or the last 8 ! Am i right ?
    You actually be succesfull in all your competitions as you said previously !
    Now imagine !
    You win league trophy , you level up and your 115% team become a 95% team on day one of new season !
    another guy in your new season league , who failed to promote was at 105% and now is 85%

    You find this fair situation ?
    imagine one time you also fail to promote !!!! do you will be agree to have a 20% reduction and be honest please cause i really think most people will come on this forum to exhaust their big rage if those " great " idea is released , be sure of this !

    The only good suggestion about tanking it is nikos who bring it to us ! It is a suggestion which doesn't stop tanking but limit it in the time !
    Excuse me , tell me if i am wrong , but you are one of those who proudly claim that tanking is cheating ??? if i am right , first thing , i am pretty sure you never tank so you don't know what about you talk at all ! Tanking defenitly isn't cheat ! it s an option BUT it must not been used in a abusive way ! What is abusive ? It is like the team of the first FA group in te world ( chasseurs de jannah ) ! they tank since season ONE for some of their accounts , they tank 10 seasons consecutivly ! THIS can be called " cheat " , but tanking one , or two seasons isn't cheat at all and there is no problem with it !

    So nikos's suggestion was good because he purpose to limit the capacity to tank only 2 consecutive seasons , but we can extend it to 3 seasons max i think !
    The problem with having an "option" is that people are human beings. Being competitive people with abuse or exploit every "option". How do you stop people abusing the options is the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerniceguy View Post
    The problem with having an "option" is that people are human beings. Being competitive people with abuse or exploit every "option". How do you stop people abusing the options is the question?

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    you can't , it is as simple as that coz what i ever said is " you can do whatever you want , people will always find a way to exploit something ! i ' m pretty sure some teams still leave their asso between each week end to have the daily 5 green packs max amount to train between association members lol


    So you can't avoid people to exploit !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizer Franz View Post
    you can't , it is as simple as that coz what i ever said is " you can do whatever you want , people will always find a way to exploit something ! i ' m pretty sure some teams still leave their asso between each week end to have the daily 5 green packs max amount to train between association members lol
    Yes they do. Obviously have too much time on their hands lol. Whilst people will always exploit it doesn't mean you shouldn't try and close loopholes. Otherwise we are just left with a chaotic mess which people won't want to play eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerniceguy View Post
    Yes they do. Obviously have too much time on their hands lol. Whilst people will always exploit it doesn't mean you shouldn't try and close loopholes. Otherwise we are just left with a chaotic mess which people won't want to play eventually.

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    other question !

    You seem to be agree with the 20% reduction each season whatever you do , finishing on the 8 first places or the last 8 ! Am i right ?
    You actually be succesfull in all your competitions as you said previously !
    Now imagine !
    You win league trophy , you level up and your 115% team become a 95% team on day one of new season !
    another guy in your new season league , who failed to promote was at 105% and now is 85%

    You find this fair situation ?
    imagine one time you also fail to promote !!!! do you will be agree to have a 20% reduction and be honest please cause i really think most people will come on this forum to exhaust their big rage if those " great " idea is released , be sure of this !

    The only good suggestion about tanking it is nikos who bring it to us ! It is a suggestion which doesn't stop tanking but limit it in the time !
    Excuse me , tell me if i am wrong , but you are one of those who proudly claim that tanking is cheating ??? if i am right , first thing , i am pretty sure you never tank so you don't know what about you talk at all ! Tanking defenitly isn't cheat ! it s an option BUT it must not been used in a abusive way ! What is abusive ? It is like the team of the first FA group in te world ( chasseurs de jannah ) ! they tank since season ONE for some of their accounts , they tank 10 seasons consecutivly ! THIS can be called " cheat " , but tanking one , or two seasons isn't cheat at all and there is no problem with it !

    So nikos's suggestion was good because he purpose to limit the capacity to tank only 2 consecutive seasons , but we can extend it to 3 seasons max i think !




    generaly i made soflty suggestion and i appreciate soflty and smoothy suggestions lol

    Nikos's suggestion to limit in time tanking is great
    Mine to limit loan capacity from 8 to 3 players was great too i really think

    But no , what we get is loan remove !

    and some of us here want everybody get 20% reductions !

    a band of butcher !

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