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    What to do on a bad day? Discussion

    Ok so I just fought an evenly matched opponent (3% stronger) and lost 6-1.

    My entire DF + GK is rated ~4.5.
    My opponent had 2 “strikers” rated 10.

    Seeing how poorly my defense was playing I substituted 2 out at half time.
    Subs played equally poor.

    Same thing happened in my cup final last season where I lost 5-1 against an evenly matched opponent.

    Tactics wise, last season I played defensive; this time I tried offense.

    So my question is, what can we do in such situations to turn things around?
    Any ideas?
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    In most cases nothing

    My third team had a bad day this morning in the CL (me 48% opponent 75%) and no tactics change could help

    I was like a pungiball

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    Quote Originally Posted by anduincolfer View Post
    Ok so I just fought an evenly matched opponent (3% stronger) and lost 6-1.

    My entire DF + GK is rated ~4.5.
    My opponent had 2 “strikers” rated 10.

    Seeing how poorly my defense was playing I substituted 2 out at half time.
    Subs played equally poor.

    Same thing happened in my cup final last season where I lost 5-1 against an evenly matched opponent.

    Tactics wise, last season I played defensive; this time I tried offense.

    So my question is, what can we do in such situations to turn things around?
    Any ideas?


    Such bad player rating against almost equal team is a reflection of a strong attacking training + highest win bonus of your opponent while you had a normal training + MAYBE your absence during the game and/ or low win bonus ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by USARABAT View Post
    Such bad player rating against almost equal team is a reflection of a strong attacking training + highest win bonus of your opponent while you had a normal training + MAYBE your absence during the game and/ or low win bonus ...
    Hi USARABAT, thanks for your comments.

    I attended the entire game, opponent manager was also present.
    As this was my CL QF match, I prepared all I could.

    All my training bonuses were +10%, i.e. maxed, condition of all players also 90% and above.
    In addition I was on a season high undefeated win streak of 15 matches.

    Not sure if the win streak was my undoing, like Mr Troll had to come out and make a mess of it.

    Anyone had similar experiences and managed to turn the tables?
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    well then what about the win bonus , maybe you didn't set it to the max ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anduincolfer View Post
    Hi USARABAT, thanks for your comments.

    I attended the entire game, opponent manager was also present.
    As this was my CL QF match, I prepared all I could.

    All my training bonuses were +10%, i.e. maxed, condition of all players also 90% and above.
    In addition I was on a season high undefeated win streak of 15 matches.

    Not sure if the win streak was my undoing, like Mr Troll had to come out and make a mess of it.

    Anyone had similar experiences and managed to turn the tables?
    I find that the long winning streak leads to a troll type result around game 15 to 20. Obviously programmed to increase probability of loss the longer you go undefeated.

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    One suggestion even thou it is kinda of a myth but it has some truth in my experience. Never substitute a Defender especially a DC, there is a high chance of conceding a goal after that.
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    The truth is that it has nothing to do with morale, condition, and certainly not win bonus or training bonus. The game engine creates these scenarios sometimes and expects you to react to it. If you do what the engine expects you to, then you can turn it around. Most times adjusting the position of your defenders will do the trick or a change in your orders might work, but just keep changing stuff and keep an eye out for for key stats shots on target and no of saves, if it improves in your favor then stick with that setting.

    Most times I'm able to identify this kind of scenario even before I concede the first goal by watching the ratings of my defenders and also paying close attention to the number of shots on target against me and how many of those shots forced my goalie to make a save. If ten minutes into the match I see the opponent has 6 shots with 5 on target and I have 5 with 0 on target then I know I need to change something because if I don't I'll concede a lot of goals with that setting. Take this from someone who has only lost twice in the past 4 seasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan117 View Post
    If ten minutes into the match I see the opponent has 6 shots with 5 on target and I have 5 with 0 on target then I know I need to change something because if I don't I'll concede a lot of goals with that setting. Take this from someone who has only lost twice in the past 4 seasons.
    you said " change something" can you give more details /options in the case mentioned above ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan117 View Post
    The truth is that it has nothing to do with morale, condition, and certainly not win bonus or training bonus. The game engine creates these scenarios sometimes and expects you to react to it. If you do what the engine expects you to, then you can turn it around. Most times adjusting the position of your defenders will do the trick or a change in your orders might work, but just keep changing stuff and keep an eye out for for key stats shots on target and no of saves, if it improves in your favor then stick with that setting.

    Most times I'm able to identify this kind of scenario even before I concede the first goal by watching the ratings of my defenders and also paying close attention to the number of shots on target against me and how many of those shots forced my goalie to make a save. If ten minutes into the match I see the opponent has 6 shots with 5 on target and I have 5 with 0 on target then I know I need to change something because if I don't I'll concede a lot of goals with that setting. Take this from someone who has only lost twice in the past 4 seasons.
    I call these scenarios Troll Challenge. Like a game of rock paper scissors game expects attending manager to find the magic orders to overcome the challenge. Occasionally I will get a brick wall troll. Where no matter what you do and even if the match lasted 24 hours I would never score!

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