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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerniceguy View Post
    Yes I agree players age and have those abilities. I have some players like that who have naturally developed that way although the new training system will stunt that to make players a little more naturally balanced. My point is the upselling abuse has been supported by many forumers and my last understanding was the loophole is still open to be exploited. I find this disappointing as this should be the priority over the actual training rebalancing. If not fixed then a suggestion to fix would be various as suggested already such as limit negotiation of a player to 1 move a season to reduce how far they can move up the tree.
    I totally agree

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    My point is the upselling abuse has been supported by many forumers
    no, don't agree. I don't remember any post supporting that (at least from a regular forum member).
    You can search yourself.

    limit negotiation of a player to 1 move a season to reduce how far they can move up the tree.
    yes, this is simple and logic (but don't know if the devs can work with that)

    3. By itself, the division into "dark" and "light" skills leads to the fact that this can be manipulated.
    definitely the devs should work this thing with skills/drills and training or else this would be just a Police and Thieves game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    no, don't agree. I don't remember any post supporting that (at least from a regular forum member).
    You can search yourself.


    yes, this is simple and logic (but don't know if the devs can work with that)


    definitely the devs should work this thing with skills/drills and training or else this would be just a Police and Thieves game.
    I don't need to search. We will just agree to disagree and move on eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    limit negotiation of a player to 1 move a season to reduce how far they can move up the tree.
    yes, this is simple and logic (but don't know if the devs can work with that)
    it does not solve all possible manipulations with the ratings of teams. the two most logical steps are to close the sale on the levels up and down the levels completely, close the negotiations and auction for the period of the matches of the associations and the last and first day of the season. Then we can say that for a while (until they find another solution), the game will become fair (in terms of the rating of teams before and after the draw of the associations, league, cup and the Champions League)
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    Quote Originally Posted by lalexrus View Post
    it does not solve all possible manipulations with the ratings of teams. the two most logical steps are to close the sale on the levels up and down the levels completely, close the negotiations and auction for the period of the matches of the associations and the last and first day of the season. Then we can say that for a while (until they find another solution), the game will become fair (in terms of the rating of teams before and after the draw of the associations, league, cup and the Champions League)
    Negotiations would become useless if limited same level. If I spend 30t to buy a 99% player I am not selling him for below what I paid.

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    If you read my post I am not critical of training I am critical of players using multiple accounts to create a beat the game engine 18yo mutant.

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    It can be done, we understand that the negotiations feature is used mainly 1 time per season with the same player. When there's a repetitive upselling with the own multi accounts is when this can be understood as a abuse, and a non sense.
    I've been myself pushing for a cap of 1 time per season or 1 time each 15 days in what players can be sold via nego's to keep some logic and fairness.
    Maybe Im gonna post later the log with the main suggestions related to the issues, as when I do public the reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    It can be done, we understand that the negotiations feature is used mainly 1 time per season with the same player. When there's a repetitive upselling with the own multi accounts is when this can be understood as a abuse, and a non sense.
    I've been myself pushing for a cap of 1 time per season or 1 time each 15 days in what players can be sold via nego's to keep some logic and fairness.
    Maybe Im gonna post later the log with the main suggestions related to the issues, as when I do public the reports.
    It would be a shame for the negotiations feature to be removed totally as was the case with loans when that was abused. So yes let's have some constructive suggestions so we can keep this feature. For a start why not specifically ban the use of abusive upselling in the game T and Cs and follow through with bans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    It can be done, we understand that the negotiations feature is used mainly 1 time per season with the same player. When there's a repetitive upselling with the own multi accounts is when this can be understood as a abuse, and a non sense.
    I've been myself pushing for a cap of 1 time per season or 1 time each 15 days in what players can be sold via nego's to keep some logic and fairness.
    Maybe Im gonna post later the log with the main suggestions related to the issues, as when I do public the reports.
    Minimum contract of 15 days sounds like it could be interesting. It would certainly slow down the upselling of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altiplano View Post
    Minimum contract of 15 days sounds like it could be interesting. It would certainly slow down the upselling of players.
    I totally support this idea.

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