[Announcement] Server Release 15th May - Upcoming Changes

[LOS ABRANTES FC]

Hm. Well as the change explains - non-GK players can't gain anything from training with a GK drill (and naturally so - Only GKs have a Goalkeeping Skill and its respective attributes), but these player's will still use up condition as with any other drill you add.

This means that if you add a GK drill in the mix with other drills, player's who aren't goalkeepers will not gain anything from the GK drill. If there was a goalkeeper in the list of players, he would receive attribute gains from the presence of the GK drill.

In other words - Don't add a GK drill if you're not training Goalkeepers. If you do, the players will just waste condition on the drill without being able to gain anything (i.e. Only GKs have Goalkeeping attributes). That's all.

I mean a single drill that trains GK skills ans outfield players .

[Jeeves]

I mean a single drill that trains GK skills and outfield players .

Hm, you mean like if a drill you use covers things like Rushing out and/or Communication and other attributes that exist in in non-GK skills? In that case, everything is fine.
As long as a player has attribute(s) that a drill covers, he will be able to receive gains, while expending his Condition stat.

EDIT: Example - If you use the drills "Fast Counter-Attacks", "Video Analysis", "Hold the Lime", which all cover the Communication attribute and then you add outfield players with the proper Defence and Attack attributes AND add a Goalkeeper, everyone will expend condition for these three drills, and the ones who have the appropriate attributes can gain an increase to said attributes, including the GK because Communication is a goalkeeping attribute, and is present in the drills that I listed.

Note: Just in case you mean something about mixing drills that cover different skills - No penalty. Nothing bad. Doesn't even matter if you have a GK drill in there, it will cost Condition and if there's a GK to benefit from the drill, he will. That's all.

[LOS ABRANTES FC]

Hm, you mean like if a drill you use covers things like Rushing out and/or Communication and other attributes that exist in in non-GK skills? In that case, everything is fine.
As long as a player has attribute(s) that a drill covers, he will be able to receive gains, while expending his Condition stat.

Edit: I'll add an example in a minute.

Exactly.
I want to know if this kind of drills will have its efficiency reduce. The drills associate a total % skill gain to the relative condition loss of the single drill and these % of skill gain was divided proportionally to every single attribute the drill trains. In the case the single drill trains GK attribute too, the total % of skill gain was allocated only to the outfield player attribute. I want to know if it will continue this way or if the total % of skill gain will reduce to the presence of GK attributes...
Hope that you understand what I mean, sorry but my english is not that good.

[khris]

Exactly.
I want to know if this kind of drills will have its efficiency reduce. The drills associate a total % skill gain to the relative condition loss of the single drill and these % of skill gain was divided proportionally to every single attribute the drill trains. In the case the single drill trains GK attribute too, the total % of skill gain was allocated only to the outfield player attribute. I want to know if it will continue this way or if the total % of skill gain will reduce to the presence of GK attributes...
Hope that you understand what I mean, sorry but my english is not that good.

Here you are wrong:

"and these % of skill gain was divided proportionally to every single attribute the drill trains."

edit:
Is not the same condition using, per 1% won, there's a progress bar that was visible in previous versions, now it is hidden.

When the bar wins 99 you won a skill point that was allocated initially, manually (some people saved loads) but then these where auto allocated.

Now every Attribute have it's own speed training, so I really don't know how the "hidden bar system is made actually" but a 1% can be won -let's say- with 40 condition used (let's say) and another skill will win with 90 of condition, so it is irregular, not proportional.

So there's no re-calculations to do if I do the calculation well cause never was proportionally spread.

[LOS ABRANTES FC]

Here you are wrong:

"and these % of skill gain was divided proportionally to every single attribute the drill trains."

Wrong? It didn't work this way like the Toxcatl ITP?

[khris]

Wrong? It didn't work this way like the Toxcatl ITP?

Remember too that the white skills gain double XP... so now I'm not for calculations (Im for the dinner lol) but we can discuss it later.

Train different attributes and you''ll notice the difference of condition needed to gain a 1%..^^

[LOS ABRANTES FC]

Remember too that the white skills gain double XP... so now I'm not for calculations (Im for the dinner lol) but we can discuss it later.

Train different attributes and you''ll notice the difference of condition needed to gain a 1%..^^

Yeah, i was implying that. Proportionally, considering the difference beetween white and grey skills. The point is that total skill gain/condition loss ratio of a drill indipended on presence of GK attributes. I want to know if it will be the same.

[khris]

I mean a single drill that trains GK skills ans outfield players .

edited** answered**

[po_zdrach]

By the way, what you will do with quality manipulators and tankers. It was easy to f*** training and kill all fun (and realism) of training process, but some "managers" play this game - tank, tank, manipulate, manipulate, manipulate, manipulate = 4-5-6 trebles in row

[rogerniceguy]

By the way, what you will do with quality manipulators and tankers. It was easy to f*** training and kill all fun (and realism) of training process, but some "managers" play this game - tank, tank, manipulate, manipulate, manipulate, manipulate = 4-5-6 trebles in row

How about draws based on Top Eleven? Otherwise rename game Top Fourteen eh

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