Make the game more fair for everyone (no use to tank anymore)

[talisman]

Associations is a good idea, but needs to be done differently.

Like having a separate squad for the Association matches. That'll stop tanking for Associations affecting the League, Cup and CL/SL.

Nordeus have proved that it can be done with the IC competition, now they can make Associations a separate competition as well.

[maloukees]

Talisman ,

I agree with you also.
That is a good way to stop the tanking, so the different competions do not mess eachother up.

Like also the asso games, If I have league game just before asso game, I use green packs to restore full strength and moral etc.

Hope Nordeus will do something with these thoughts

[Bunzo]

Associations is a good idea, but needs to be done differently.

Like having a separate squad for the Association matches. That'll stop tanking for Associations affecting the League, Cup and CL/SL.

Nordeus have proved that it can be done with the IC competition, now they can make Associations a separate competition as well.

Now that is an idea to look into

[rogerniceguy]

Khris has suggested this also. Good idea

Associations is a good idea, but needs to be done differently.

Like having a separate squad for the Association matches. That'll stop tanking for Associations affecting the League, Cup and CL/SL.

Nordeus have proved that it can be done with the IC competition, now they can make Associations a separate competition as well.

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[nikolgiorgos]

I mean remove 20% from all the teams even the ones NOT promoted.

Ok, but it's not fair for teams which played normally but had tough opponents and couldn't make it.

That's why I suggested this one
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...s-project.html

Maybe it is good to make a cap or max of 130% per season

agree, that's why I suggested this one
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...A-players.html

You see, there are already a lot of suggestions but don't know if there is a will.

And I 'm not sure if it's good to change things because there is no interaction between the devs and the players.
Usually they take some decision without listening to players or really understand what is the real problem.

So I don't bother to play in asso platinum division and that's all for me.
I solved the problem

[rogerniceguy]

Ok, but it's not fair for teams which played normally but had tough opponents and couldn't make it.

That's why I suggested this one
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...s-project.html


agree, that's why I suggested this one
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...A-players.html

You see, there are already a lot of suggestions but don't know if there is a will.

And I 'm not sure if it's good to change things because there is no interaction between the devs and the players.
Usually they take some decision without listening to players or really understand what is the real problem.

So I don't bother to play in asso platinum division and that's all for me.
I solved the problem

Yeah there needs to be 2 or 3 people on the game dev committee. Niko and Khris to stop them making bad decisions.

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[rogerniceguy]

So here is an example of unfair tanking imo. I am in line to play this user in cl sf. To be clear I don't expect to be the highest q user in every match but this seems silly to me....

I am in same level competition and this user as you can see is one level lower. You can also see he is tanking his league. He is 177%q for his level and tanking. 157%q relative to my level. To be in cl he has needed to win cl several seasons on the trot. Is it reasonable to have someone tank year after year after year?

Discuss lol

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[Bunzo]

So here is an example of unfair tanking imo. I am in line to play this user in cl sf. To be clear I don't expect to be the highest q user in every match but this seems silly to me....

I am in same level competition and this user as you can see is one level lower. You can also see he is tanking his league. He is 177%q for his level and tanking. 157%q relative to my level. To be in cl he has needed to win cl several seasons on the trot. Is it reasonable to have someone tank year after year after year?

Discuss lol

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As far as I'm concerned that is just cheating
Which is obviously expected from a Russian btw

[rogerniceguy]

As far as I'm concerned that is just cheating
Which is obviously expected from a Russian btw

I agree. But this has gone on for soooo long completely unchecked there is severe distortion in the game. I can see why people may want to stay same level for 1 season;

Separate from a difficult rival (eg. A token buyer or Trickster)

Going on holiday during that season

But to allow teams to stay level endlessly with no % reduction in q is not good for game.

Some good suggestions I have seen others make;

1. Scrap asso top 100 showboat and sales parade. Reduce asso tokens and put on league top 8 to encourage league effort.

2. Separate asso squad like in ic. Hopefully reduces the linked asso motivation and damage caused elsewhere.

3. Have a player stay level (relegation) release clause. Best 3 players say if not promoted automatically sold. Reduces quality of such teams.

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[Altiplano]

So here is an example of unfair tanking imo. I am in line to play this user in cl sf. To be clear I don't expect to be the highest q user in every match but this seems silly to me....

I am in same level competition and this user as you can see is one level lower. You can also see he is tanking his league. He is 177%q for his level and tanking. 157%q relative to my level. To be in cl he has needed to win cl several seasons on the trot. Is it reasonable to have someone tank year after year after year?

Discuss lol

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And this is where repetitive tanking really stinks.
With my 2nd team I've never knowingly cost another team a league title. I've been out of the champions league and super league for seasons, but...........I have undoubtedly cost teams a cup, double or even treble with the 6 cup wins in 8 levels that I have with my 2nd team. And that's not fair on the other teams. Even if it is a +1 draw.
Tanking stops from next season with my 2nd team. Otherwise I'm going to end up with 9 star retirees.