Arrows TE 2019

[nikolgiorgos]

Arrows are back again,



so for the new players I have some old threads you can take a look.
The philosophy is the same I guess

https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...tml#post260875
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...-arrows-4.html
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...24-arrows.html

if you read in old threads red is attack arrow, blue is the defense

[jcohen42]

Man... "Ask the Devs"... what a throwback. A simpler time when the managers were the most important thing.

[IImaestroII]

https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...tml#post467276

I think this will help too

[TheWhiteKirby]

This is just their work rate right? You can choose if you want your DMC to have an attacking work rate (Red) defensive work rate (blue) or dual work rate (yellow) right? Similar options in FIFA managing if that's the case.

[Hunter]

Thanks nik.
I was just thinking to search over the forum for this.

[Ποσιδονας]

As this is a simulation game and not real players , I believe that arrows actually aren't changing some behavior of the players but just contribute some % in attack or defense in game engine.
For every game we see this screen.
Every player considering his quality, skills and position, contributes more or less in those three areas.
With our orders, we affect little more the calculations + the % training bonus.
No arrows is the default.
Using defense or attack arrows, we take a little from defense and add to attack or vice versa.
If some +% in attack will be "translated" to goals, that's another story.
That's all.

[pele]

As this is a simulation game and not real players , I believe that arrows actually aren't changing some behavior of the players but just contribute some % in attack or defense in game engine.
For every game we see this screen.
Every player considering his quality, skills and position, contributes more or less in those three areas.
With our orders, we affect little more the calculations + the % training bonus.
No arrows is the default.
Using defense or attack arrows, we take a little from defense and add to attack or vice versa.
If some +% in attack will be "translated" to goals, that's another story.
That's all.

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I think you're right. I believe that the mentality button transfers a small percentage of ability between attacking and defending. For example, a DM with an attacking mentality might received 1% attacking bonus, but will lose 1% defensive ability (for instance, Liverpool's Fabinho). Similarly, an AMR with a defensive mentality will get a 1% defensive bonus and lose 1% attacking bonus (for instance, Chelsea's Willian).

I really want to give my fullbacks attacking mentality, but my league is so tight at the moment, I dare not take a risk. So here's hoping someone else will carry the burden of testing it out over a stretch of games.

[Ποσιδονας]

I think you're right. I believe that the mentality button transfers a small percentage of ability between attacking and defending. For example, a DM with an attacking mentality might received 1% attacking bonus, but will lose 1% defensive ability (for instance, Liverpool's Fabinho). Similarly, an AMR with a defensive mentality will get a 1% defensive bonus and lose 1% attacking bonus (for instance, Chelsea's Willian).

I really want to give my fullbacks attacking mentality, but my league is so tight at the moment, I dare not take a risk. So here's hoping someone else will carry the burden of testing it out over a stretch of games.

Or having Marcelo in Real M. , give attack arrow and he 'll play as a winger. But don't expect from him to contribute much in defense.
So you cannot have the same tactics for every game.

I remember the old times ther were many conversations about "imaginary" game scenes as effect of the arrows.
Forget about it.
it just % numbers.

[tomu741]

Does up arrow on aml says that he stay forward or get in behind? . What is different between dc with down arrow and no arrow?

[nikolgiorgos]

In the practical thing, the final result, I agree with the analysis of @Ποσιδονας.

Always keep in the back of your mind the Matrix
There is no spoon.


Now, visually, as far as I remember the old times
DC > has no effect
DR-DL more often see them as wingers
DMC > DC or MC
MR > AMR
ML > AML
MC don't remember having effect
AMs more peripheral strikers
ST no effect