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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    A new player, with more contributive power, can change the Contributive Roles list that the game assign, and a new player, can eclipse another you have.
    This happened to me many times, or the same when I kept old players as reserves, that had by default a very contributive role, as they were key players that even with 3* where able to score... and, having these roles already covered -roles of contribution inside the team, which are limited to create realism- I couldnt buy a new ST and see him as key player or even high contributive. I needed to liberate space, -so free contribution spots/roles- till the game assigned, to a new ST the power I wanted for him.

    All is calibrated by the engine, so, this happens.
    Khris, I understand what you are saying but I do not understand how you determined - or we can determine for our own teams - what "contributive roles” have been assigned to whom and what “contributive power” they each have. I believe you and I see it to be true on my own team with certain players playing better together than others. I like this idea a lot. But is there a way to tell other than observational hunch?

    There is so much room for better statistics for this game that would keep us all geeked out on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by julien12 View Post
    Khris, I understand what you are saying but I do not understand how you determined - or we can determine for our own teams - what "contributive roles” have been assigned to whom and what “contributive power” they each have. I believe you and I see it to be true on my own team with certain players playing better together than others. I like this idea a lot. But is there a way to tell other than observational hunch?

    There is so much room for better statistics for this game that would keep us all geeked out on it.
    The contributive power only can be known once you check out the team stats, so, once you see, who scores, who assist, once you do the job to find the FKs man and the Corners one, and once you spot who are the key players checking out the ratings. All, is about know your team, and yeah, test and observate is the key.

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    Thanks for the reply Khris,

    The only problem with the observational approach is that performances can vary so widely across opponents depending on quality, formations and tactics. Did my AMR have a great day because the opponents DL was weak, or were they playing 3w at the back against my 2(AMR/AML)-2 front or did they attack when I was playing DEF with Counters ON? There are a lot of variables.

    Based on this thread I have gone back through many of my games to see if I could identify a common set of players that led to “abnormally good” outcomes. I then took that group of players and played the exact same 11 with the same formation and orders against a strong CUP opponent. 3-0 win one game where my AMR dominates, 2-0 win the second where he couldn't hit a wall but his teammates stepped up. Both good wins is good but I really can't work out who was contributing what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julien12 View Post
    Thanks for the reply Khris,

    The only problem with the observational approach is that performances can vary so widely across opponents depending on quality, formations and tactics. Did my AMR have a great day because the opponents DL was weak, or were they playing 3w at the back against my 2(AMR/AML)-2 front or did they attack when I was playing DEF with Counters ON? There are a lot of variables.

    Based on this thread I have gone back through many of my games to see if I could identify a common set of players that led to “abnormally good” outcomes. I then took that group of players and played the exact same 11 with the same formation and orders against a strong CUP opponent. 3-0 win one game where my AMR dominates, 2-0 win the second where he couldn't hit a wall but his teammates stepped up. Both good wins is good but I really can't work out who was contributing what.
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