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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillybq View Post
    I definitely need to read up more on all this. Very technical to me. Lol but good to see my formation in that mix. Good stuff, fmfm has a lot of options
    Even 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond has beaten this (I seen it live at least twice many years ago). But, the key in there can be seen again, it is still like 3 in the middle and 3 attackers just in front. But those were old days. Right now, I do not know what the game engine will significantly prefer to be used, but one thing for sure is that orders matter a lot. On paper, all those formations I listed above look good, but wrong orders can be costly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    Even 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond has beaten this (I seen it live at least twice many years ago). But, the key in there can be seen again, it is still like 3 in the middle and 3 attackers just in front. But those were old days. Right now, I do not know what the game engine will significantly prefer to be used, but one for sure is that orders matter a lot. On paper, all those formations I listed above look good, but wrong orders can be costly.
    I use 1-4-1-1-3

    What a unique formation, does that have any name for it, this is what it looks like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    Even 4-1-2-1-2 Narrow Diamond has beaten this (I seen it live at least twice many years ago). But, the key in there can be seen again, it is still like 3 in the middle and 3 attackers just in front. But those were old days. Right now, I do not know what the game engine will significantly prefer to be used, but one thing for sure is that orders matter a lot. On paper, all those formations I listed above look good, but wrong orders can be costly.
    The only thing I know about the orders are attacking goes well with offside trap and never with counter. Defence goes well with counter and never with offside trap. Also ST and MC in the game perform really badly. If I had a choice I rather not play these 2 positions. Play 4 AMs and 2 DMC instead. My Mc is always needing morale boosters as he ain’t assisting. He doesn’t do anything lol. My st does a little, like really very little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillybq View Post
    The only thing I know about the orders are attacking goes well with offside trap and never with counter. Defence goes well with counter and never with offside trap. Also ST and MC in the game perform really badly. If I had a choice I rather not play these 2 positions. Play 4 AMs and 2 DMC instead. My Mc is always needing morale boosters as he ain’t assisting. He doesn’t do anything lol. My st does a little, like really very little.
    I have used offside trap with defensive styles and it worked. Some are just guidslines shared by users. They are not a must. In fact, based on experiences, I found some advices and guides shared by others like 'bull****' because the orders they adviced did not make any sense with what was working for me in the game. Briefly, good order combinations can be any in this game (even those that are against logic). It is all about what the game engine has selected to be right orders for you to use in that specific match (I do not know how, maybe some by logic and some random).

    I know about the MC and ST problem; it is not something new, but I think there are good and bad players too. For sure, there are ST that performed very well; a big example is my ST itself (lots of goals and assists, more goals than the wingers, and is currently the player of the season so far).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    I have used offside trap with defensive styles and it worked. Some are just guidlines shared by users. They are not a must. In fact, based on experiences, I found some advices and guides like 'bull****' because the orders they adviced did not make any sense with what was working for me in the game. Briefly, good order combinations can be any in this game (even those that are against logic). It is all about what the game engine has selected to be right orders for you to use in that specific match (I do not know how, maybe some by logic and some random).

    I know about the MC and ST problem; it is not something new, but I think there are good and bad players too. For sure, there are ST that performed very well; a big example is my ST itself (lots of goals and assists, more goals than the wingers, and is currently the player of the season so far).
    Offside trap works for me too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Max McClean View Post
    Offside trap works for me too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    I have used offside trap with defensive styles and it worked. Some are just guidslines shared by users. They are not a must. In fact, based on experiences, I found some advices and guides shared by others like 'bull****' because the orders they adviced did not make any sense with what was working for me in the game. Briefly, good order combinations can be any in this game (even those that are against logic). It is all about what the game engine has selected to be right orders for you to use in that specific match (I do not know how, maybe some by logic and some random).

    I know about the MC and ST problem; it is not something new, but I think there are good and bad players too. For sure, there are ST that performed very well; a big example is my ST itself (lots of goals and assists, more goals than the wingers, and is currently the player of the season so far).
    Will try the offside with defensive next time. I actually asked someone who plays Soccer and he told me but yeah it’s a game so what’s normally done doesn’t always apply.

    Am selling my ST again. The search continues for one that can perform without fk and pk duties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillybq View Post
    Will try the offside with defensive next time. I actually asked someone who plays Soccer and he told me but yeah it’s a game so what’s normally done doesn’t always apply.

    Am selling my ST again. The search continues for one that can perform without fk and pk duties.
    I have never had the perfect ST, They hold up play and set up attackers, the one I have is pretty good


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillybq View Post
    Will try the offside with defensive next time. I actually asked someone who plays Soccer and he told me but yeah it’s a game so what’s normally done doesn’t always apply.

    Am selling my ST again. The search continues for one that can perform without fk and pk duties.
    I always have good ST. My current ST scores 36 goals and has 28 assists this season without any set pieces. Just to make sure that his quality is more than qualities of AMx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandef View Post
    I always have good ST. My current ST scores 36 goals and has 28 assists this season without any set pieces. Just to make sure that his quality is more than qualities of AMx.
    My ST has a bit more quality than my other attackers too, he did not assist by taking corners and he only took free-kicks from one side. So, maybe if some users get a good ST and train him to a good enough quality, the ST will perform better as opposed to using a 5-star striker but close to 7-star wingers in the same team.

    Another thing is that my ST came with penalty kick special ability by default but people might tend to get the impression that STs with penalty kick specialist are significantly worst than those having one-on-one scorer special ability or free-kick special ability. It is more about the player itself than the special ability; the special ability is just an added bonus, and of course I would have prefered for a ST with free-kick special ability but not at the cost of him not scoring and contributing enough from open play.

    I bought my ST last season (was 18 y.o) from the daily recommendation list as a suggested improvement over my what I would say a very average to crap performing 18 y.o ST that I bought that same season from the auction list. His first match was an association match and he scored 4 goals. After that, he was not that noticeable, and I will say that he was just good in the remaining of that first season, but the second season he is the player of the season so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    My ST has a bit more quality than my other attackers too. So, maybe if some userd get a good ST and train him to a good enough quality, the ST will perform well as opposed to using a 5-star striker but close to 7-star wingers and then saying STs are **** or cosmetic or things like this.
    I have a decent centre forward at the moment but my wingers are my best players.


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