Thank you Nordeus, awesome draft as always !

[Callister]

This was long time ago. Seems nordeus tract this as normal legit thing.
I would say this one - most pro players abuse everything that is abusable. And thats why they are so good.

From what i remember from the past, it wasnt so bad like now. Many people do this like you said, its something normal and legit thing. And i wonder what you learn from a match with 50% players who are not even online in their game ? Real managers write notes during games to know what they need to do and what to improve, right ? If you play with amateur team like mine, what you get, just a easy win and thats it right? And if you face a players who has a team like you, you lose because you learned nothing playing with easy targets.
Top eleven dont forces us to learn to be good, if not bear the consequences. Think that not every player has the time like others to invest time in game to be good and have good players. Thats why this difference between a casual player and a pro player. I know its hard to imagine this, but in this game, they are many casual players, otherwise you will face only pros.
Abusing something is wrong, even if its there, even if the game allows you to do. The fault here is 50 Nordeus and 50 those who manipulate with big teams for easy wins.

My plan is not to change something right now, because people wont be fair ever with others and always will abuse the system for their fun. But doing this, dont complain to Nordeus because you got taste from your own medicine and someone ruined your fun like you do with others mister manipulator.
Its sad how a football game allows pro players to abuse new and casual players.

[justusfernz]

and to set the record straight... i played with an 85% team against you....
and you were not there both the times,,,
and i dont hide from any challenges... i didnt even play with my full strength,,,, there are lot of 90% teams in the cup and CL draws that i am placed in... unfortunately you turned out to 55%... and how can you say its my fault....

[𝐃𝐎𝐍𝐚𝐥𝐞𝐱𝐞❤𝐆 iwnl]

First of all I want to say that I apologize to you Callister, because it is my fault.

Secondly, after we finished our official matches, me and Justy, we started playing friendly matches through association to test different tactics, different formations, how the players react in matches to rain weather, etc. Our purpose was to find solutions and help our community members with valuable informations for their matches and, of course, to be better prepared for the challenges of the new season. In our last tests, we wanted to see how poor quality players with very, very low skills do so well against players who are properly trained. I wish i can tell you more about this, but maybe after more tests, we will reveal or you can stay tuned on justy's youtube channel.

I think everyone is waiting for the answer to the question: Why he had in his main team, the low quality players ?
It was a mistake where he completely forgot to load his main players because of me. You can believe me or not, but I assure you that, he never manipulated the draw system to get low quality teams. For him is important to play against very good managers with very well trained players, just to learn even more and share this knowledge to the new managers and even those who play this game for many years or casual via videos or words.

In that picture, he was talking about the opponents he got in association draw. We all know that top 100 is composed from 90% of managers who either manipulate or tank or both. As i said many times, top 100 is the mirror of the Nordeus game. I can assure you, even if you don't manipulate, there is a chance to get a team that manipulated. The same thing can happen even in official competitions.

As tomu741 wrote, are lots of good managers who are trying to exploit every weakness this game has, just to have a big number of wins and trophies.
Nordeus won't do anything any time soon against "glitches in the game". My advice is to try to play fair and be fair to your fellow managers every time, because you don't want to risk a season because of karma.
Also EastSider is right; you need to adapt, casual or not, to create your own strategy for different scenario games against on or off managers.
BUT, there's a difference between having a philosophy to compete against other managers(active or not) AND manipulate the system of draw to play versus low to very low teams with the manager not active.

In my opinion, football means more than just numbers and lines of codes and only those through hard work and learn will recognise the true victory of a match.

In conclusion, I want to sincerely apologize again for this inconvenience and I hope you get in touch with Justy, who is a great guy and manager, to solve something when you two will battle on the field.
Hope everyone will have a great season and Stay Safe !!!

[justusfernz]

Start playing this game casual 2 months ago after a 4 year stop. 2 months ago, i end up playing against a team who had awesome players, but losing in league and winning in other competitions. I had no idea what's happening after some people told me that they are named tankers and manipulating the draws to get easy targets and steal trophies, because they have no skill and no brain to compete against teams who match their Quality. Ok.
Last month i end up against a team who had in the first day a team full with 1% players and the reserves full with players skilled with 200 or 300. Ok again, no problem. He won every single match and trophy against 80 teams, like mine where most of them werent in their match.
New season, new player to face whos manipulating in the same way like the previous one. My question is, why im getting this players having awesome players and not the ones where they play like me casual, for fun and having around my team quality ? Why do i face players who are much better than me in playing this game and having players more awesome than me in skills ? It looks like their are doing this to not play with the teams in Premier League, but with the ones in English Football League Two, which is not fair. I dont play to win, i play only for fun and buying players from market. But this fun is ruined when this players who are manipulating to get easy targets like me its not ok. After i read more, this is for years and its strange how people they are cheating are not punished or atleast improve the system to make it fair for all players.
About this team i will post some pictures to see who im facing this season, which is an example and im sure im not the only one in this situation against manipulating. My association mate told me this guy is a youtuber. I saw his channel and looks like a guy who understands this game far more than me. I joined his server and i saw posts where hes against people who are manipulating and sent to Nordeus emails complaining about this and how unfair is the system with the teams who has to play. But why are you manipulating aswell when you clearly dont like others who are manipulating and have to play against them.

I dont think i will play this game anymore, feels again like a lost month playing against this bs players who are ruin the game. Nordeus needs to solve this somewhere near into the future and make the game be enjoyable again, if not, its whatever and minus 1 player here to all this players who are manipulating for easy targets.

I understand what you say...
but for a casual guy who plays... if you feel so... take note on what ill feel...
now i its true that i do complain and raise investigations on the loopholes of the system...
but i have been where you stand and i am fed of writing to them... here is a copy i wrote to just a few days ago...

[milpol]

Alright. Interesting post.


To begin with, I know your opponent very well. He's a good manager, a good friend and a youtuber like me. But I don't think it's his fault.

Manipulation and all those "cheats" or exploits, are allowed by the game itself, and sometimes you can say you're forced to follow them. For instance, I want to have a team around 130% at the end of the season, but at the same time, I don't want to face the two 180% teams. So in order to avoid those teams, I have to reduce my team quality somehow. I want to play against equal teams, but the draw system doesn't allow that. Is manipulation an option? No, not at all, but there's nothing else you can do.

The community has asked for an end in manipulation, tanking, upselling. I myself have wrote many reports asking for that and giving solutions. So far nothing, but I hope and I'm pretty sure something will be done this year.

[khris]

Approved all posts*** x4 that the system flagged.

[tomu741]

Be careful when making requests - wise man words.
Probably most updates which where requested and completed are only disadvantages. Even the last update with weather shows that this is only drawback - all these just drain more condition especially with high pressing.

[EastsiderSG]

Be careful when making requests - wise man words.
Probably most updates which where requested and completed are only disadvantages. Even the last update with weather shows that this is only drawback - all these just drain more condition especially with high pressing.

There are many more.

People requested to allow changing of reds and blues to greens.
- Morale drops faster now and we get more injuries.
Too much cash right
- Now you cant sell players as easily
Active players want a bigger advantage to minimise trolling
-TPB introduced

And yes, now weather.....please learn from our past mistakes. No free lunch in this world. Many dont like manipulators but dont even know when their thoughts are being manipulated by those affiliated to the company.

[tomu741]

For me the biggest pain was destruction of negotiation. They so screwed it that i cant understand why they did it. They can easily remove it from game and noone will see that it is disappeared as it was with assistant manager .
Yeah you can wait all day when trying to sell player - with no luck. So i usually just sack them nowdays.
Special sponsor - even if it gives small boost to us but the biggest advantage is for those who pays for them. You just cant overlook differences between common and paid special sponsor.
So next time anyone will request any changes remember that it will be twisted in that way you cant imagine.

[EastsiderSG]

For me the biggest pain was destruction of negotiation. They so screwed it that i cant understand why they did it. They can easily remove it from game and noone will see that it is disappeared as it was with assistant manager .
Yeah you can wait all day when trying to sell player - with no luck. So i usually just sack them nowdays.
Special sponsor - even if it gives small boost to us but the biggest advantage is for those who pays for them. You just cant overlook differences between common and paid special sponsor.
So next time anyone will request any changes remember that it will be twisted in that way you cant imagine.

My guess for nego is to tackle upselling and to reduce our token gain from farming. We used to buy lots of young fast trainers and keep them at 39, 59, 79 and even 19 quality. Good profit those days. Yeah I am feeling it slowly moving towards pay to win with special sponsor.