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    Oh its been difficult, but I've enjoyed the cup run as I expected to go out at the beginning as usual, This is a tough Quarter-Final, but I expect another good performance from my team and hopefully get us a good lead going into the 2nd leg. I'd happily take a draw or even a high-scoring 1 goal loss like 3-2 or 4-3.
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    We were ready and waiting for this game and after many games of study of our opponents, we used it to our advantage and players like Miku and O'Sullivan were the shining lights and our defence did a good job of Bencas attacks, The first real chance of the game fell for the home team and when the dangerous Scarpelli setup Rottine and he tapped in for an early advantage for Benca, But July Fourth woke up and were up for the challenge this afternoon and found our game, Miku from 25 meters almost immediately put us level and we had to wait until just after midway point of the first half for Stuart to score from 30 meters to give us a useful 2 away goals, this came after we defended well against Scarpelli and Ortiz who both got a shot in from Benca. Orbech, Scarpelli and Ortiz then tried to breakthrough for Benca in search of the equaliser and Hogan and Ramirez read the timings well.

    The second half was more good stuff from July Fourth as we begun to take full control of the game, Michu broke clear and was 1v1 against Mendiola and used his option to pass to Miku to make it 3-1, Our next chance saw O'Sullivan break clear and pass to Miku who shot passed the post in an attempt for a wonderful hatrick, Vestergaard had a opportunity and tried to go alone but Donninelli cut out the former Benca's player attempts at goal, Then O'Sullivan made the move of the game and this time he had more space and time to direct his effort on goal to give the keeper no chance and send July Fourth into a 4-1 lead when his shot went in off the post, Even substitutes Petersen and Papaleo were creating chances after we replaced Michu, O'Sullivan and Vestergaard with our eyes on tonights re-arranged league game which got put back 6 1/2 hours for to recover some rest after this game, there was a late chance for Benca to grab themselves some hope for the 2nd leg on Wednesday when Petkov played it to Tortora and his shot was blocked by Hogan.

    Goals: Rottine (5) Miku (10,57) Stuart (33) O'Sullivan (65) MOTM: Michu.

    Team Talk: We are absolutely delighted to win this difficult game on paper very well and we have just about won the tie already in the 1st leg, so it looks like we are going to be presented with some sort of reward for our efforts in this RR Cup, Of course I think Benca will come out and throw the kitchen sink at us in the 2nd leg, but I believe we have more than enough quality to withstand any sort of Benca comeback. We expect to face a similar quality team in the Semi-Finals in "Wardley Massive" as they are firm favourites to progress against "Thai Team".

    Our odds of Winning the RR Cup have tumbled down to just 3/1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by July Fourth View Post
    Oh its been difficult, but I've enjoyed the cup run as I expected to go out at the beginning as usual, This is a tough Quarter-Final, but I expect another good performance from my team and hopefully get us a good lead going into the 2nd leg. I'd happily take a draw or even a high-scoring 1 goal loss like 3-2 or 4-3.
    Yeah, it's tough. But the CUP's should be tough and rough, that's why it becomes a relief and joy when you win it (or get 2nd or 3rd)... It's the feeling of satisfaction



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ljepoje View Post
    Yeah, it's tough. But the CUP's should be tough and rough, that's why it becomes a relief and joy when you win it (or get 2nd or 3rd)... It's the feeling of satisfaction





    I never doubted you for a second, Wonderful!
    I can look forward to next week and enjoy our matches in the final stages of this seasons RR Cup and who knows we might even win it. I just play the Cup for what it is since the format change and I'm not too concerned if we don't win the competition this season even though now we have a good chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ljepoje View Post
    Yeah, it's tough. But the CUP's should be tough and rough, that's why it becomes a relief and joy when you win it (or get 2nd or 3rd)... It's the feeling of satisfaction





    I never doubted you for a second, Wonderful!
    I d like to see how you'd have fun onto going for the cup vs lv6 teams with respectively Q59.9 (wided between reserves too) and 63. Not fun, granted. Ultimately it all comes down to the server you play, if you re on a new server, and to the cup sort selection if you are on old servers. Any lv20-21 t buyer woulda have had an avg 8* or 9* team facing july. Which might be fun a couple of times, but not every season. In my case, i ll have those two personal trainers tards over and over and over abusing their cc cup for me is not much more than a challenge untill quarters. Just think thet FC Barcelona (alex) has 14 players in squad. Not even a spare keeper. Just a dc/dr/dl one mc and one st. All the rest comes from red packs purchased to keep the top eleven out of injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree View Post
    I d like to see how you'd have fun onto going for the cup vs lv6 teams with respectively Q59.9 (wided between reserves too) and 63. Not fun, granted. Ultimately it all comes down to the server you play, if you re on a new server, and to the cup sort selection if you are on old servers. Any lv20-21 t buyer woulda have had an avg 8* or 9* team facing july. Which might be fun a couple of times, but not every season. In my case, i ll have those two personal trainers tards over and over and over abusing their cc cup for me is not much more than a challenge untill quarters. Just think thet FC Barcelona (alex) has 14 players in squad. Not even a spare keeper. Just a dc/dr/dl one mc and one st. All the rest comes from red packs purchased to keep the top eleven out of injuries.
    Huh? Im lvl 6 myself and have been playing against much better opposition despite being on the same lvl or not. The only team's that manage to qualify to the final-eight are T-buyers (players from 6* to 8/9*).

    And there are none Q59.9 on my server. Dynamo Swag is Q57,9 and that's the "best" team you can find (probably on lvl 6 as well) The rest of the opposition with 7-8* players in their team (Orchard Utd,FC Köln, Man Utd and myself etc) are all eliminated. Only DS and 7 other teams with 5-6* players are left (which is wierd).




    You can't compare players/managers who play on the old resp new servers. The odds and prerequisites aren't the same for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ljepoje View Post
    Huh? Im lvl 6 myself and have been playing against much better opposition despite being on the same lvl or not. The only team's that manage to qualify to the final-eight are T-buyers (players from 6* to 8/9*).

    And there are none Q59.9 on my server. Dynamo Swag is Q57,9 and that's the "best" team you can find (probably on lvl 6 as well) The rest of the opposition with 7-8* players in their team (Orchard Utd,FC Köln, Man Utd and myself etc) are all eliminated. Only DS and 7 other teams with 5-6* players are left (which is wierd).




    You can't compare players/managers who play on the old resp new servers. The odds and prerequisites aren't the same for all.
    nope mate you got me totally wrong. I was comparing the "having fun" you described with having to have ALWAIS the two regular power-players in your cup every season with capability way beyond the normal players and t buyers, hence having to fight a "already lost" battle at least on charts. Respectively:



    where every season over and over (unless you park the bus couple of seasons) you will fight players with a main eleven avg 15Q over the already hugely invested t-buyer teams (like mine, ie, or kaiserslauten).

    That's what i meant: until you fight equal opposition or even 4-5Q over you i rekon it's really really fun. Altho when your Q55 t buyer team is up against a Q70 of the same level, EVERY SEASON, is it really fun? Would it be fun for you to fight your way to the cup final four knowing you'll have alwais a 15Q disavantage versus two teams over countless and countless seasons? Your case is different, where the best team apart yours wasn't that far from your quality, as well as the other ones were pretty much on par as well.

    That's why i said that for new servers it all come down to luck to either have a real fun cup or just a "win till you can then know you won't go any further". That's a limit to how skilled you can play against 15 Q difference. As matter of fact only a Troll usually makes you through.

    As for July, my example was simplier: as i said for old servers, depends on the initial draw. July was sorted with higher levels team which tho had an average of 4*/5* and max 6* players within their ranks, which were 5*,6* and 7* for July. But would a token buyer one or two levels higher than July have a team of about the same amount of tokens spent on training as July, he would have a 10* (hypotetical) team against and i don't know how much fun would be to fight a 130Q team when you are 118 and almost the top of your level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree View Post
    nope mate you got me totally wrong. I was comparing the "having fun" you described with having to have ALWAIS the two regular power-players in your cup every season with capability way beyond the normal players and t buyers, hence having to fight a "already lost" battle at least on charts. Respectively:



    where every season over and over (unless you park the bus couple of seasons) you will fight players with a main eleven avg 15Q over the already hugely invested t-buyer teams (like mine, ie, or kaiserslauten).

    That's what i meant: until you fight equal opposition or even 4-5Q over you i rekon it's really really fun. Altho when your Q55 t buyer team is up against a Q70 of the same level, EVERY SEASON, is it really fun? Would it be fun for you to fight your way to the cup final four knowing you'll have alwais a 15Q disavantage versus two teams over countless and countless seasons? Your case is different, where the best team apart yours wasn't that far from your quality, as well as the other ones were pretty much on par as well.

    That's why i said that for new servers it all come down to luck to either have a real fun cup or just a "win till you can then know you won't go any further". That's a limit to how skilled you can play against 15 Q difference. As matter of fact only a Troll usually makes you through.

    As for July, my example was simplier: as i said for old servers, depends on the initial draw. July was sorted with higher levels team which tho had an average of 4*/5* and max 6* players within their ranks, which were 5*,6* and 7* for July. But would a token buyer one or two levels higher than July have a team of about the same amount of tokens spent on training as July, he would have a 10* (hypotetical) team against and i don't know how much fun would be to fight a 130Q team when you are 118 and almost the top of your level.

    I sincerely don't know and it's like I said before, some managers are and will be disadvantaged - one way or another. Some managers on the old servers don't like the CUP and the CUP format, while managers on the new ones do (like myself). Some managers on the new ones don't like the auctions and the fact that they need to spend 20-40T + a couple of millions xtra just to buy a 18 yr old 5* player, while managers on the old servers don't.

    This is why I always say - It's all about the server your on and every situation is peculiar and distinctive in it's own way. It's almost "impossible" to say - this is how it is, this is how it works, no matter what. That's also why I try to avoid giving people any advices. I believe every manager need to explore and know how things work on their server or lvl for that matter.

    I can only speak for myself and the server I'm playing on. I became a "semi" T-buyer at lvl 4 and on lvl 5 a "pro". Mostly because I realized that I had a pretty good chance to compete with the "best" on equal grounds and prerequisites (even if 70% of the managers are T-buyers). And just looking at the team qualities, I consider myself as the 2nd "best", just behind DS on my server and lvl.
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