The new star system (and the negotiation list)

[nikolgiorgos]

Hey cookiz I finally managed to set my player in negotiation list.
Two things to say
1) With the old version it's almost impossible to do that because the calculation is little different.
2) You don't have to look at %

Ok, let's go

[cookizzz]

So, as I understand now, we must observe the quality values as shown in new version to determine if they are close to nego list or next star.

[nikolgiorgos]

yes, but as it hard to find exactly the sp progress with the new training, better to gather the demanded sp from the old one.
(or at least it's looks easier to me).
After that of course, we must start an extra position or sa as priority for the gaining (if we want to use our player in the games).
Also remember that when we click those buttons (extra role or sa) , we 're setting the priority.

[nikolgiorgos]

This is my player Thamnidis and I had a post about him in first page, #10 - as a player in nego list.

After two seasons, now Thamnidis is 27 y.o.. I had to use him in the first two games of the Cup as I didn't have enough players (defenders actually).
Playing those games, he got this 0,2 sp and he became a 75Q player - so he is out of the nego list now.
Meantime, I had some gifts sp for him.
His special ability is active so the earning sp should go there and not in quality but I guess this is a bug of the game (is it ? )
So, if you have a good offer, don't wait too much to give your player.



* that's not relative, but as I upload the photo, you can see that his morale was zero when I used him (after staying for so long time in the bench) but still he got a 7,3 and 8,3 in those two games.
Just another confirmation that low morale doesn't many times doesn't affect the performance of the player - save your blues

[Eric Jego]

Last informations !!!

After reading all informations nikolgiorgos corrected to me, i have to say first Nordeus seems having correct lot of things. I am sure about method of calculation that is not conflictual with nikolgiorgos's explanations. Now no mind because a new fact changes it. Nordeus inserts régulations and now no mind my explanantions about 1 to 4 Sp... to get negociation list. Nordeus patches it. I just check each of them... and all are at 0.93 or 0.96 from next star. (considering X+X+X /3).

To be honest, ay my level 37, it is a long time I received few offers and I am not sure anymore about its utility !

But my today s intervention is for another important mention. After some matters in french forum on FB, I was telling about players evolving even when no training organized !!!

Easy, when each day you claim your 3 rests and 1 SP, please not the SP will never go to the SA. He will go directly on the player. So if you have fix him to 9% and 4-9 before next star, be carreful to the Gift SP.

Same for the MVP, it never goes to the SA.

[nikolgiorgos]

Easy, when each day you claim your 3 rests and 1 SP, please not the SP will never go to the SA. He will go directly on the player. So if you have fix him to 9% and 4-9 before next star, be carreful to the Gift SP.
Same for the MVP, it never goes to the SA.

That's useful info and explain why many managers complaining that even if they set a sa or an extra position, their player still got the 6*.
In the first case, you can open the gift when you choose the time to play in the old but in the second case, with the MVP sp, you can't avoid this (unless of course if you choose not to use your player).
I don't know if I wrote it or not but if you have a player in nego list and have some descent offers, don't wait for long.

btw, I use both versions.
-I use the old one in my new players, to recognize if they are fast trainers (or anyway, what lv trainers are)
and for power-training to give an extra position or sa.
-The new training for the daily game bonus.

[nikolgiorgos]

UPDATE

A new update about this thread.
Something must has changed from the beginning of the new version with the skills.
I have the impression that in the beginning , to set our player in negotiation list, he had to be 0,2 points from the next level.
But some time later, I noticed that when I had a player at 99 quality, also had offers. Then I had him in some training , his q was still at 99, his stats were increased but continued having offers.
After seeing a comment of Jeeves, I can say that when our player has quality of 79 – 99 – 119, we start to have offers for him. If he gets little training or participate in a match and after this his q again is 79-99-119 (but with few more points), we still can have offers for him.
When he goes to 80-100-120, is out of the list.
The major problem to keep our player in the list, is that the sp gift from friends and the earning sp from MoM are going to quality and not in the extra position or sa we set for that reason (there is also a mini bug ? , where the normal gaining progress still can goes to q instead of sa or extra position we set as priority, but we can’t do anything about it).

I made a suggestion here
http://forum.topeleven.com/suggestio...ork-again.html
To “lock” our player in negotiation list and even if we use him in a match, he won’t earn any quality.

Also another suggestion I made is that the sp gift will goes only to the captain of the team.
A player we want to improve and keep him for some extra seasons and not random.

I don’t believe we ‘ll have some news/ updates about that, so what we can do to avoid that ?

Read the following.


I made this as jpeg for a purpose.
Only the registered forum members can read this and not the guests of the forum.
I don’t understand why we have only few members on line and so many people reading the forum as guests.
So guys, why don’t you join the forum ?

[Gabez Teh]

And not to mention what is the GK exact turning point ? I'm missing the turning point all the time coz it's different compairing field player TP

[nikolgiorgos]

Ok some news about nego list players.
First, we don't need to find the exact point where a player is getting into negotiations list.
At some point nordeus made some update and from then, players who have 19,39,59,79,99,119,139 ...% quality, they automatically get into negotiations list.

That's good because before it was too complicate to find the exact point.
Of course it would be better if we had any information about this but you know nordeus moto
Discover the game by yourself

So, what else we have discover ?

That also a player with _8% quality can be in nego list





and today I got an offer and gave a player with 57% quality



How did it happen ?
Don't know, maybe when an available nego list is run out of 99% players, takes from lower % too ?

[António Simões]

We can make an offer to buy any player from another team (<100%) without going through the negotiations list (only x9% players). We go directly to the squad of the other team (friend or not), choose a player (any %) and make an offer.