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    Quote Originally Posted by meis View Post
    at least 4 players in the opponent half
    !!!!!
    That's a new twist.
    So, if you're correct, my formation (5-1-0-2w-2) will be legal

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    There could well be something in 4 players in the opponents half.
    I don't think it's a 80/20 loss but a couple of times I've played 4-3-1-1-1 with the DMR/DML with red arrows in defensive mode and counter.
    Possession was down on the normal % with players of the same quality when played in a different formation.
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    Well ... so much for theories:
    Definitive Illegal Formation Rules-5-1-0-2-2.jpg

    After halftime I switched the DMC for a ST
    Definitive Illegal Formation Rules-5-0-0-2-3.jpg

    in nether case was I penalized with the 20/80 possession. So ...I don't know what to think ... how can a 5-0-2-0-3 be illegal but a 5-0-0-2-3 is OK?
    Last edited by Razz; 01-10-2013 at 05:37 PM.

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    I played against this formation
    --ST-ST-ST--
    -----AMC----
    ---MC--MC--
    -----DMC----
    --DC-DC-DC--

    he got 20% ball possession, from the very first minute to the end of the match, because it's illegal I guess (no wingers at all).

    Does anybody know something about out-of-role positions? What if I put a DMC or a DL into the DC position? Is it totally bad?
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    le Anh's formation:
    Definitive Illegal Formation Rules-5-0-2-0-3.jpg
    Second half, moving the 2 MCs to AM
    Definitive Illegal Formation Rules-2ndhalf.jpg
    At this point, I haven't a clue ...

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    Sorry wrong topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz View Post
    le Anh's formation:
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    Second half, moving the 2 MCs to AM
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    At this point, I haven't a clue ...
    Do you still have matches in which to experiment? Don't move the players too much, we know in 5-2-3, 2 MCs are illegal, but wide AMs aren't. Next, try wide Ms (ML and MR) or 2 AMCs.

    I believe one of them will be illegal. If wide Ms are illegal, then somehow it's playing the 2 midfielders in the middle row that makes the formation illegal. If AMCs are illegal, then for some reason, the 2 midfielders must be on the wings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razz View Post
    le Anh's formation:
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    Second half, moving the 2 MCs to AM
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    At this point, I haven't a clue ...
    nice... but honestly, who'd be that stupid to use 5-0-2-0-3 HAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potemy View Post
    Do you still have matches in which to experiment? Don't move the players too much, we know in 5-2-3, 2 MCs are illegal, but wide AMs aren't. Next, try wide Ms (ML and MR) or 2 AMCs.

    I believe one of them will be illegal. If wide Ms are illegal, then somehow it's playing the 2 midfielders in the middle row that makes the formation illegal. If AMCs are illegal, then for some reason, the 2 midfielders must be on the wings.
    OK, I started with 5-0-0-2W-3 this time and it WAS illegal. Not sure why it wasn't showing that way in previous tests.
    I Immediately switched to 5-0-2W-0-3 and left that until the 29th minute, long enough to confirm it was illegal. Then i moved the MR and ML to AMC slots and played until halftime. Possession remained 20/80 throughout.

    Definitive Illegal Formation Rules-5-0-0-2n-3.jpg
    Sorry, only 1 screen cap, I screwed the others up up somehow.

    Second half, trailing 3-2 I moved everyone forward, even tried to move the keeper into attack but it wasn't allowed! Pulled out a draw - experiment or not, clinched or not, I had to at least try for the league win LOL.

    Anyway, I'll play a friendly later on, but after all this i think Potemy's 3 midfielders (AM*, M* or DM*) is correct. Now need to confirm if location of the 3 matters.

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    Just a confirmation 5-0-0-2w-3 is illegal:
    Definitive Illegal Formation Rules-5-0-0-2w-3.jpg

    Switch to 4-0-0-3w-3
    Definitive Illegal Formation Rules-4-0-0-3w-3.jpg

    Switch to 4-3w-0-0-3 at halftime:
    Definitive Illegal Formation Rules-4-3w-0-0-3.jpg

    20/80 possession for entire game, so all 3 confirmed illegal.

    Screen captures were taken immediately before formation change.

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