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[nikolgiorgos]

Condition bonus doesn't reduce the condition loss during the game.
Reduce the penalty in calculations because of low condition.

- Also if you use high pressing or man to man, gives extra condition loss but that doesn't go to gaining.
- Extra time (and c.l.) gives extra gaining.


cl> condition loss
For example
a training with a set that gives 18% cl, a player gain 4% skills
a match with 22% cl , gain 5% skills
a match, using high pressing and mtm, gives 40% cl and gain also 4% skills
a match with extra time and 30% cl , gain 5%

The effect of cl depends of the Wheel of Fortune I describe here
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...op-eleven.html

In some games the cl penalty multiplies X10 and gives a critical disadvantage, in other games it's just a X1 and has minor effect.

So someone can say, "Look, I played with players condition in reds but still won."
Ok, but if continue that, after 2-3 games you may loose badly from a weak team.

If the condition bonus effect was to reduce c loss, then using it 5 times would have been obvious.

So I find condition bonus when in some games you use high pressing and man to man from the start and the games goes to extra time.
In this case it can be helpful.
But if addition bonus give something % extra, I prefer to use attack or defense.
Usually I have a lot of supporters so I have the 15% ball possession from there (and my presence of course) .

[Sillybq]

Condition bonus doesn't reduce the condition loss during the game.
Reduce the penalty in calculations because of low condition.

- Also if you use high pressing or man to man, gives extra condition loss but that doesn't go to gaining.
- Extra time (and c.l.) gives extra gaining.


cl> condition loss
For example
a training with a set that gives 18% cl, a player gain 4% skills
a match with 22% cl , gain 5% skills
a match, using high pressing and mtm, gives 40% cl and gain also 4% skills
a match with extra time and 30% cl , gain 5%

The effect of cl depends of the Wheel of Fortune I describe here
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...op-eleven.html

In some games the cl penalty multiplies X10 and gives a critical disadvantage, in other games it's just a X1 and has minor effect.

So someone can say, "Look, I played with players condition in reds but still won."
Ok, but if continue that, after 2-3 games you may loose badly from a weak team.

If the condition bonus effect was to reduce c loss, then using it 5 times would have been obvious.

So I find condition bonus when in some games you use high pressing and man to man from the start and the games goes to extra time.
In this case it can be helpful.
But if addition bonus give something % extra, I prefer to use attack or defense.
Usually I have a lot of supporters so I have the 15% ball possession from there (and my presence of course) .

Seriously? That's what condition bonus does?

[nikolgiorgos]

Subs
Some hints about how the game works

- A sub gives an extra green so good to get it as you may have 50 official games + asso games + friendlies + events.
- With a sub, you can reverse a bad score or if the game is stuck in a not desired score.
Don't be too late, round 60-65' min it's ok.
First half is too early I think (except for a GKs really bad performance)
At break time it's ok if it's not going good.
- If you 're winning 1-0 but the game is tight, don't do a sub. This can reverse the score but for the other side.
- If you sub a defender, you may conceded a goal, so do that only for an injury or your defender has really bad rate (bellow 5,8) or a card and bad rate or you have nothing to loose.
- If one player has a yellow card, keep an eye in his rate. If it's still high, above 7, keep him in the game.
If it's decreasing 1-2 times in a row, sub him to protect him from a 2nd yellow.
Also keep an eye in his morale.
Morale many times is working like an indicator who is in a low form or gonna make a bad performance or a fatal action in a next game.
So don't rush to have them all in a max morale because you won't be able to recognize that player.
- If you see your oppo manager doing 2-3 subs, better activate the mtm order so to boost a little your defense.
Might be a dangerous situation.
- Do 2 subs and keep the last one for the end.
- You don't know what can happen . I mean an injury.
Remember that there is the rule of only one injury in a TE game so if you had already one injured player, you are secure from that.
- About 85' -86' it's the last min you can make a sub. After that it's too late (except some times when there is a delay in your clock).
- Players you can make a sub are
MCs - if the have bellow 6,8
AMs if the have bellow 7
ST if the have bellow 6,8
DMC if have bellow 7-6,8
GK if have bellow 6
For the GK I usually make an exception. If conceded a goal early and his rates go from red to red, is the player I might sub early in the game.
Better a -1* -2* sub player than a player with very bad rate.

If your free-kick taker has a low rate (a bad day) , you may not sub him but put another player for the free-kicks.

There are two old bugs in the game
A delay in the stats > go in some other screen of the menu and return to the game to see the fresh one.
A delay in a sub > After your sub, move another player in his (same bx, not position) so to tab another time the V button.

[Sillybq]

Subs
Some hints about how the game works

- A sub gives an extra green so good to get it as you may have 50 official games + asso games + friendlies + events.
- With a sub, you can reverse a bad score or if the game is stuck in a not desired score.
Don't be too late, round 60-65' min it's ok.
First half is too early I think (except for a GKs really bad performance)
At break time it's ok if it's not going good.
- If you 're winning 1-0 but the game is tight, don't do a sub. This can reverse the score but for the other side.
- If you sub a defender, you may conceded a goal, so do that only for an injury or your defender has really bad rate (bellow 5,8) or a card and bad rate or you have nothing to loose.
- If one player has a yellow card, keep an eye in his rate. If it's still high, above 7, keep him in the game.
If it's decreasing 1-2 times in a row, sub him to protect him from a 2nd yellow.
Also keep an eye in his morale.
Morale many times is working like an indicator who is in a low form or gonna make a bad performance or a fatal action in a next game.
So don't rush to have them all in a max morale because you won't be able to recognize that player.
- If you see your oppo manager doing 2-3 subs, better activate the mtm order so to boost a little your defense.
Might be a dangerous situation.
- Do 2 subs and keep the last one for the end.
- You don't know what can happen . I mean an injury.
Remember that there is the rule of only one injury in a TE game so if you had already one injured player, you are secure from that.
- About 85' -86' it's the last min you can make a sub. After that it's too late (except some times when there is a delay in your clock).
- Players you can make a sub are
MCs - if the have bellow 6,8
AMs if the have bellow 7
ST if the have bellow 6,8
DMC if have bellow 7-6,8
GK if have bellow 6
For the GK I usually make an exception. If conceded a goal early and his rates go from red to red, is the player I might sub early in the game.
Better a -1* -2* sub player than a player with very bad rate.

If your free-kick taker has a low rate (a bad day) , you may not sub him but put another player for the free-kicks.

There are two old bugs in the game
A delay in the stats > go in some other screen of the menu and return to the game to see the fresh one.
A delay in a sub > After your sub, move another player in his (same bx, not position) so to tab another time the V button.

Impt bump

[Ποσιδονας]

For the GK I usually make an exception. If conceded a goal early and his rates go from red to red, is the player I might sub early in the game.
Better a -1* -2* sub player than a player with very bad rate.

I have read many posts of yours, saying that GK is cosmetic, express the roll-dice of the game and more.
If so, why to sub a GK if it's not about his performance and abilities ?

[nikolgiorgos]

Yes, I still believe that GKs role is cosmetic and most of the times just represents the Luck part of a game or give an alibi for your loss.
But still we 're trying to do the right thing.
Some games are fixed but some games which start bad, we can reverse the flow of the game.
Here a game I had yesterday in CL.
Opponent was much weaker and not present.
Yeah, the right recipe for a troll game
I could see the signs that the game is going for a troll even if I scored at 61' the 1-2.
My GK had a low rate and that continued in reds, decreasing bellow 6.
I could see a conceded goal coming so I subbed my GK.
That didn't help me as the goal of oppo came at 88'.
So the game was fixed not to win.
Look at the comment now - John Weir (my GK who came from the bench at 81') lacked motivation - lol
This fixed game was to blame my main GK Dida for the not-win.
But as I subbed him, so that crazy comment went to my sub-keeper.





If you see games like this, that means you did the right thing but beaten from the AI of the game, not because you did something wrong or opponent manager was better.
So you keep the same things for the second leg, hopping that bad Luck won't strike you twice (usually doesn't).

[barnabasfuto]

Please somebody, if I want to go defend very hard what should I choose in play offside trap, on or off? And also in focus passing (maybe here it doesnt matter)?

[nikolgiorgos]

no offside
not long passing

[barnabasfuto]

no offside
not long passing

Thank you!

I have one more question, the player bonus also decrease 2% every day as team bonus, or it never decrease?

[nikolgiorgos]

Thank you!

I have one more question, the player bonus also decrease 2% every day as team bonus, or it never decrease?

This thread is to help you go from step B to step C or D.
But you must make some steps on your own or you won't make it.
You mean that you cannot observe tomorrow that your players lost a 2% from their player bonus
and you want an answer to that ?
ok