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BigB79 Training. 11-01-2013, 05:54 PM
spornybol they too improve outfield... 11-01-2013, 06:11 PM
DiZZee Handling does not mean hand... 11-01-2013, 06:20 PM
el_loco maybe, but if u take a good... 11-01-2013, 06:48 PM
BigB79 I have 2MC who have a better... 11-01-2013, 08:50 PM
Killerbee Eh, I doubt handling is a... 11-01-2013, 09:48 PM
duchao My GK 18 years old, still... 11-02-2013, 01:11 AM
Marc Symons You are spot-on. Handling in... 11-02-2013, 06:21 AM
Phil Scrivener Isnt that called shielding ?? 11-05-2013, 12:27 PM
littledude072 made more sense after i read... 11-02-2013, 07:38 AM
BigB79 Killerbee...Marc....Rubbish.... 11-02-2013, 07:41 AM
Killerbee Eh, it being rubbish is your... 11-02-2013, 11:09 AM
Saransh Vatsa Common man....handling is not... 11-02-2013, 03:24 PM
Saransh Vatsa In Italian it has been... 11-02-2013, 03:32 PM
kefka In Swedish, the skill would... 11-02-2013, 03:46 PM
Dman2pt Heading is another one, we... 11-02-2013, 03:50 PM
kefka Sorry if i was unclear, the... 11-02-2013, 04:04 PM
Marc Symons I would do your homework... 11-02-2013, 06:27 PM
BigB79 I think after 15 years... 11-02-2013, 08:41 PM
Marc Symons Im not going to get into a... 11-03-2013, 01:19 AM
BigB79 When have you ever heard a... 11-02-2013, 02:16 PM
Killerbee You take the definitions far... 11-02-2013, 03:21 PM
Dman2pt In Portuguese version handlig... 11-02-2013, 02:28 PM
Marc Symons First page of google: ... 11-02-2013, 06:29 PM
Cat Harrison Interesting the translations,... 11-02-2013, 07:52 PM
BigB79 No it's not, and it's... 11-03-2013, 04:07 AM
Marc Symons Nordeus is a Serbian... 11-03-2013, 07:29 AM
BigB79 If your going to try and hit... 11-03-2013, 08:19 AM
Marc Symons Lets not forget that all... 11-05-2013, 06:17 AM
BigB79 Are you not going to tell me... 11-05-2013, 09:09 AM
Flinger I think you guys are over... 11-05-2013, 04:49 PM
Saransh Vatsa Hmmmmmm..... Maybe.... And as... 11-06-2013, 06:49 AM
BigB79 The lack of any response from... 11-06-2013, 09:18 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB79 View Post
    I think after 15 years involved in professional football ive more than done my homework my friend.

    When have you heard a pundit describe a players ball control as 'handling'? When have you heard a pundit say "what great handling that player showed" when a player has shown great ball control?

    And if you play this on your PC and look in the top right hand corner you will see it ask what language you wish to use and in that you will see the British flag next to the english language which means this game is written in the Queen's English not American English.





    Seriously this is your 'evidence', who are these people? Americans? Once again the game is written in British English.

    What exactly did you search for in google?
    Im not going to get into a long drawn out debate about something that is so minor and obvious. It just tickled me that after "after 15 years involved in professional football" you did't know that 'Handling' is a training/tactical term used in both England and America in regards to all players on the pitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerbee View Post
    Eh, it being rubbish is your opinion and completely silly in my eyes since you have no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim. What other statistic do you see that would refer to a player's ball control then? That's right, none. Handling is clearly meant for both the definition of touching, grasping, or using with the hands (for GK) as the manner of treating or dealing with the ball (for everyone).
    When have you ever heard a manager, a player, a TV pundit or anyone in football saying an outfield player 'handling a ball well' when describing a players ball control? I have heard plenty people talking about a GK's handling.If handling does mean a players ball control then it shows Nordeus no absolutely nothing about football.

    So why do GK's have to gain skill points for finishing or heading? Just because there is no specific ball control training doesn't mean it's in handling, it means Nordeus don't know what they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB79 View Post
    When have you ever heard a manager, a player, a TV pundit or anyone in football saying an outfield player 'handling a ball well' when describing a players ball control? I have heard plenty people talking about a GK's handling.If handling does mean a players ball control then it shows Nordeus no absolutely nothing about football.

    So why do GK's have to gain skill points for finishing or heading? Just because there is no specific ball control training doesn't mean it's in handling, it means Nordeus don't know what they are doing.
    You take the definitions far too serious. Just cause the commentary you listen to never uses the word 'handling' doesn't mean that nobody ever says a (field) player is good at handling/controlling the ball. On top the creators of the game are not from England, so they may use more literal meanings for words than the words that are used in common speech. As Dman2pt says, the translation is different in other languages.

    Also the training points are all relative. Sure you spend points on other skills than a GK uses, but all that means is that it takes less points in handling/positioning/passing/crossing/aggression/speed to make a difference to the performance of a GK. Developers can add totally useless or random numbers to the game and still keep it balanced. All that matters is that they sufficiently raise the performance of the GK as you train him (more in defense/mental than attack obviously).

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    In Portuguese version handlig is translated to "posse de bola" that means capacity to keep the ball in your possession without losing it.

    So nothing to do with GK, just to capacity to dosent lose the ball whend the oponent is pressing you.

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    Interesting the translations, how they have slightly different connotations. I was thinking it mean ball control, so it would include actual handling, as in toss ins, for fielders, and goal keeper's handling/grasping/tossing.
    (And I can think of several GK that can finish, such as in a penalty kick, quite well. It just means they are great athletes. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Symons View Post
    Im not going to get into a long drawn out debate about something that is so minor and obvious. It just tickled me that after "after 15 years involved in professional football" you did't know that 'Handling' is a training/tactical term used in both England and America in regards to all players on the pitch.
    No it's not, and it's certainly not used in training or tactical terms to describe a players ball control. And I played football in England and I really don't care what they say in America because they say alot of things differently and this game isn't written for Americans.

    Are you not going to answer me. What exactly did you google?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB79 View Post
    No it's not, and it's certainly not used in training or tactical terms to describe a players ball control. And I played football in England and I really don't care what they say in America because they say alot of things differently and this game isn't written for Americans.

    Are you not going to answer me. What exactly did you google?
    Nordeus is a Serbian developing company and they distribute 'Top 11' Worldwide. They have two offices, they are in Belgrade and San Francisco. Oh wait a minute did i say San Francisco? That would then also make them American based, therefore I would say this game is very much written by/for Americans too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Symons View Post
    Nordeus is a Serbian developing company and they distribute 'Top 11' Worldwide. They have two offices, they are in Belgrade and San Francisco. Oh wait a minute did i say San Francisco? That would then also make them American based, therefore I would say this game is very much written by/for Americans too.
    If your going to try and hit me with facts at least give the full facts!!!! They have FOUR offices and one is in Dublin!!!!! I know all about Nordeus and who they are so don't try and get smart with me. And once again look at the top right hand corner and you will see it's a British flag next to the English language not American and they are different. Also if the game was written by and for Americans then in the game description it would be called soccer not football.

    And once again what was it you googled and what exactly was it you wanted me to Google to prove your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigB79 View Post
    If your going to try and hit me with facts at least give the full facts!!!! They have FOUR offices and one is in Dublin!!!!! I know all about Nordeus and who they are so don't try and get smart with me. And once again look at the top right hand corner and you will see it's a British flag next to the English language not American and they are different. Also if the game was written by and for Americans then in the game description it would be called soccer not football.

    And once again what was it you googled and what exactly was it you wanted me to Google to prove your point?
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