Zero T negotiation offers

[Kto]

I have got a fan too for the first time, offering 0t once a day already like 5-6 times. My view is, those people must have any seriosly disease, we shouldnt judge them too hard and just stay cool. Not a big deal IMO.

[talisman]

If I reject your offer for 0T, then either I don't want to sell him, or I want more for him. Offering the same price/tokens for him again and again will get you nowhere...

[nikolgiorgos]

As the season is getting near to end, it's time to sell those two nego list players.
I had them for 16-17 days but got only silly 0 or 1 T offers.
Sad for the game

[Kto]

LOL thats a nice name, Nik, for seven tokens is yours.
Question: Why dont you sell them on 1st day of the next season? One of my negos didnt get sold this season (had only a 3t offer), so even keep him locked at 79% and only train.

[Tactician]

As the season is getting near to end, it's time to sell those two nego list players.
I had them for 16-17 days but got only silly 0 or 1 T offers.
Sad for the game

LOL thats a nice name, Nik, for seven tokens is yours.
Question: Why dont you sell them on 1st day of the next season? One of my negos didnt get sold this season (had only a 3t offer), so even keep him locked at 79% and only train.

Wait... the potential buyer could think that the 7 tokens are those that are required to make the bid, that is the 7 tokens that goes to Nordeus.

[Tactician]

The main problem with negotiations is the amount of tokens that goes to Nordeus. Many users might be offering what looks like 0T or 1T to you, but they are putting like 7-10T for that offer, which is already a decent amount for the buyer's or offering user's side. Sure some users can be annoying with their repeated 0T offers, but in some cases you can see that the user has increased his offer; you will see that the amount of cash has increased. On the owner's or seller's side, 0T-3T might not be much, even 5T, but 3-5T, when offered by user that wants the player is 3-5T + the absurd amount of tokens that go to Nordeus. So, don’t blame the users; blame Nordeus.

In the past, I got lots of 0T offers too, but I also got a few 1T offers and one even increased his bid to more tokens after I rejected his offer.


I did not want to sell him before my team finished some important matches as there was no cover for the DC position in my team. This player, a token academy DC, was finally sold via negotiations later to another user. In the end, sold him turned out to be mistake as I struggled to find a DC that has some qualities I was looking for the following season while this DC had them (he needed only quality boosting by training; he even got a good rating for the only match he played). Also, despite buying other DCs, my team conceded a lot of goals, indicating that something was wrong at the back. So selling players via negotiations, even those that have lower quality can be a mistake at times, especially If the player has the potential to succeed at the club.


A Player Sold For 13T Via Negotiations


I had only one player for DR, DMR and MR during a period in a season. During that season, I was put into a situation where I had to use a formation consisting of a DR and an MR. I was in the market for a DR as I wanted to move the player that was playing at DR to MR – the only position that he had when he was bought, so let’s say his natural position, but I could not get the type of player I wanted despite spending several hours watching that new auction market. I bought an MR, that too early in the morning (2-5 A.M) after having spent hours and hours watching the lists, but he did not play up to expectations at MR despite having the necessary attributes to be a very good MR (and DR and DMR too, and hence had the potential to become a DR/DMR/MR as my other player). Later, I saw a DR that had some of the qualities I was looking for. The player was bought as a fast training, 5-star 18 y.o DR for relatively cheap in terms of tokens given the inflated market. The initial plan was to use him at DR position that same season for some certain matches where I thought using the DR/DMR/MR player at MR would be better. But it did not go according to plan, and instead the DR was kept as a cover and also as a player for the future. The player started training for a new position – DMR. He completed his new position, and reached the 79% mark next season. I got a 13T negotiation offer for him; I accepted given that it was good business. But 13T for the seller is 13 plus the absurd amount of tokens asked by Nordeus, which could have been around 35T in total for the buyer to pay. That is a lot.

[Kto]

Although I think the nego system isnt as great, it is not an excuse to offer 0-1T many times in a row, it just shows the stupidity of the buyer, Im sorry. Blaming Nordeus can be a good sport, besides it.
I buy this way only players with low grey skills, I value those 99% players (if young) much higher than 116% scouts for 69T, but never spent more than 20T

[nikolgiorgos]

@kto

Question: Why dont you sell them on 1st day of the next season?

because I end the season with 14 players (7 high q and seven low q, 1-2*) for the next draw

@Tactician

Wait... the potential buyer could think that the 7 tokens are those that are required to make the bid, that is the 7 tokens that goes to Nordeus.

If someone at lv30 doesn't know how negotiations work, what can I say - lol
I also changed the name to declare that I want to sell this player and I 'm active (cause nego don't work even if you want to buy a player. I 've made about 20-30 offers so far in my career and got only one response/player ).

negotiations don't work good, this is known.
I have made a pack of suggestions here
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...ork-again.html

but I don't believe anything will change

[Altiplano]

So today I get an 8 token offer. Yeah! Associations works!
No. The offer is for a 119% player. Boo.
So the bidder is a level higher than me. We've in the same cup and champions league draws over the last few seasons.
I know he's a level higher than me, he knows I'm a level lower than him, he knows that I know that he knows.
So I do him the favour of returning him his tokens straight away. Thanks, but no thanks.
Straight back at me with 13 tokens. Ok. He's serious, but still, no thanks.
Again straight back to me with 20 tokens! Cheers mate, but really, I don't want to sell.
Aaaaaand yet again, a fourth offer inside 2 minutes. But 20 tokens again.
Sorry mate but I wouldn't accept 20 tokens half a minute ago so what do you think will have changed? My player is trained down until the morning so you can now wait for your tokens back.
He would have been paying around 50 tokens to buy my player. 21 years old, 119%. This is almost scout list/recommended players territory. And this is where negotiations breaks down. Any offer after 25ish becomes questionable for the buyer as the number of tokens spent is on a par with scout list/ recommended players. Whilst what could I have bought to replace this player with the 20 tokens I'd have received?
Once upon a time negotiations worked fine for me, but nowadays it's just another token grab from Nordeus. 50%+ opening cut is just too much.

[nikolgiorgos]

You know, at the end of the season sometimes I sold 119% players (not in nego, in the simple tm, to lower my quality) but at the beginning of the season ??
to buy what with those 20 token, a simple 95% player ?