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nikolgiorgos Understanding role of Luck in... 04-28-2016, 05:01 PM
Tactician Generally, a 'roll of the... 04-28-2016, 05:18 PM
Tactician I have also spoken on 'luck'... 04-28-2016, 06:10 PM
Medo zalata Super good thread :) A year... 04-28-2016, 07:17 PM
Medo zalata I think this game works like... 04-28-2016, 07:22 PM
nikolgiorgos Luck must be a part of this... 04-28-2016, 07:17 PM
Tactician This is what I am saying. If... 04-28-2016, 07:49 PM
Duncton Nice thread. Agreed. ... 04-28-2016, 08:19 PM
Medo zalata Every time I remember this... 04-28-2016, 07:23 PM
nikolgiorgos you mean there is a pattern... 04-28-2016, 08:29 PM
Tactician Strange indeed. But this is... 04-28-2016, 08:43 PM
Andrew Nifield From the way they have the... 04-28-2016, 10:17 PM
Tactician The title of this game is:... 04-29-2016, 05:47 AM
nikolgiorgos well, that's not luck, it's... 04-29-2016, 08:46 AM
Tactician This says a lot. Yet some... 04-29-2016, 11:52 AM
nikolgiorgos Well, there are some... 04-29-2016, 03:33 PM
Tactician These are among my concerns... 04-29-2016, 03:37 PM
nikolgiorgos One other case of troll... 04-29-2016, 03:52 PM
Tactician Ok, so do you think it is... 04-29-2016, 03:56 PM
Andrew Nifield @niko I'm only going... 04-29-2016, 02:50 PM
Tactician It is not about taking... 04-29-2016, 02:52 PM
Andrew Nifield I'm sorry, but you seem to be... 04-29-2016, 02:59 PM
Andrew Nifield When you talk about level, it... 04-29-2016, 03:07 PM
nikolgiorgos Don't stuck to the dices... 04-29-2016, 03:08 PM
Tactician 3-4 players don't make a... 04-29-2016, 03:16 PM
Tactician By the way, what you gave as... 04-29-2016, 04:01 PM
Tactician Given the fact that you... 04-29-2016, 04:08 PM
Andrew Nifield Yeah, I see what you mean.... 04-29-2016, 04:10 PM
Tactician Is this acceptable to you? Or... 04-29-2016, 04:15 PM
Andrew Nifield It's obviously an... 04-29-2016, 04:17 PM
Tactician So, if there is a flaw and... 04-29-2016, 04:22 PM
nikolgiorgos you didn't read what I write... 04-29-2016, 04:35 PM
Tactician Rare? If I start since season... 04-29-2016, 04:40 PM
nikolgiorgos Tactician PLEASE respect what... 04-29-2016, 05:49 PM
Tactician Ok :) . 04-29-2016, 05:53 PM
Tactician Can you explain this: 'with a... 05-01-2016, 10:00 AM
nikolgiorgos I 'm not sure if I can... 05-01-2016, 10:15 AM
Tactician Ok. I see what you mean, and... 05-01-2016, 10:33 AM
madflo19 I agree with you 100% This... 05-01-2016, 01:32 PM
nikolgiorgos check my post here... 05-01-2016, 10:23 AM
nikolgiorgos Ok, let's move this thread a... 06-02-2016, 06:33 PM
nikolgiorgos Some times, this "fix" -... 06-02-2016, 08:16 PM
nikolgiorgos Many times here in the forum... 06-02-2016, 07:49 PM
Dimitri Phome Vegas @Nikolgiorgos do you work at... 06-02-2016, 09:03 PM
nikolgiorgos well, sometimes, this... 06-03-2016, 09:08 PM
nash123 As I wrote in another thread... 06-05-2016, 07:44 PM
talisman Of course there's a random... 06-05-2016, 08:11 PM
nash123 Of course not, but talk about... 06-05-2016, 09:06 PM
nash123 Here is the second game... 06-06-2016, 08:39 PM
nikolgiorgos yes, that what I wrote in the... 06-06-2016, 09:34 PM
nikolgiorgos The book Another form of... 06-06-2016, 09:48 PM
HoofDaddy What's a book? i get your... 06-07-2016, 03:32 AM
nikolgiorgos “Rock (stone)- paper... 06-23-2016, 08:13 PM
Buffs Mad Rock Paper Scissors or Weak... 06-23-2016, 08:32 PM
nikolgiorgos well, i believe that TE has... 06-24-2016, 05:40 PM
Ahlony Wong I always use attack bonus... 06-25-2016, 06:00 AM
nash123 Why Nordeus f*cks me??? :mad:... 06-24-2016, 03:38 PM
Ahlony Wong don't think...just believe it... 06-24-2016, 03:41 PM
HairDryer if you like something you... 02-07-2017, 09:15 PM
GaD In my experience its not... 02-08-2017, 03:37 PM
nikolgiorgos Monopoly Deal , the board... 06-22-2017, 05:12 PM
Tactician It is good to have some... 06-23-2017, 02:53 PM
USARABAT If it's a dice thing ... why... 08-24-2017, 03:13 AM
nikolgiorgos huh ? 86902 :confused: 08-29-2017, 08:13 PM
USARABAT My understanding to the game... 12-28-2017, 02:27 PM
HairDryer Maybe if you go to the "troll... 08-24-2017, 05:24 AM
Jean.Monico Hello nikolgiorgos! I... 08-30-2017, 02:03 AM
nikolgiorgos Yes, that's an important... 08-30-2017, 06:20 PM
Jean.Monico Alright! Another prove that... 08-31-2017, 07:58 PM
Jean.Monico Thanks for the tip!!! I... 08-31-2017, 08:14 PM
nikolgiorgos of course, that's natural ... 12-28-2017, 03:40 PM
USARABAT This is the result of changes... 12-28-2017, 04:00 PM
nikolgiorgos Interesting article but old... 12-28-2017, 04:30 PM
nikolgiorgos Reading this thread about... 01-30-2019, 04:25 PM
IImaestroII Your WoF Theory make sense 01-30-2019, 05:13 PM
TheWhiteKirby Great theory, I agree with... 01-31-2019, 03:15 AM
nikolgiorgos Ok then, let's analyze it a... 06-18-2019, 07:02 PM
EastsiderSG You know I was just thinking... 06-18-2019, 07:33 PM
funker and what we should learn from... 06-18-2019, 07:30 PM
nikolgiorgos In 80% of my games I 'm... 06-18-2019, 08:24 PM
Ludo_Mansio Great post Nik, I agree with... 06-19-2019, 07:32 AM
Anarşi Well, that's exactly the point 06-19-2019, 08:04 AM
funker i can't believe what we came... 06-19-2019, 09:14 AM
nikolgiorgos @ funker there are two roads... 06-19-2019, 07:41 PM
Berlitz I think everyone thinks that... 06-20-2019, 02:06 AM
maloukees Maybe the system wants us... 06-20-2019, 02:57 AM
IImaestroII Well in real football... 06-20-2019, 05:53 AM
nikolgiorgos no, that's not a factor. I... 06-20-2019, 02:03 PM
a.gavrilin Guys, don't try to find any... 06-20-2019, 07:13 AM
Ludo_Mansio If this were true (that... 06-20-2019, 07:47 AM
gogs67 You're pretty much spot on... 06-20-2019, 11:57 AM
nikolgiorgos Exactly I have written many... 06-20-2019, 02:18 PM
nikolgiorgos So all those years I have... 06-20-2019, 02:06 PM
funker nik, i understand you're a... 06-20-2019, 07:55 AM
nikolgiorgos @ funker ok, we... 06-20-2019, 08:51 PM
iansyorkcityfc Obviously the wheel of... 06-21-2019, 03:22 PM
nikolgiorgos check now what happened to my... 06-21-2019, 05:27 PM
iansyorkcityfc and look yet again GK lowest... 06-21-2019, 08:15 PM
Grandef Maybe his mistake was the sub... 06-21-2019, 08:24 PM
nikolgiorgos Some times it's scripted but... 06-21-2019, 05:23 PM
nikolgiorgos I had a CL final today and... 07-19-2019, 05:35 PM
EastsiderSG Congrats Nik, next time i... 07-19-2019, 05:45 PM
nikolgiorgos A +- 10% quality difference... 07-19-2019, 05:52 PM
EastsiderSG You got me curious. Am gonna... 07-19-2019, 06:00 PM
nikolgiorgos As I said in many other... 07-19-2019, 06:41 PM
Grandef Thanks for your analysis. But... 07-19-2019, 06:44 PM
nikolgiorgos No, it's not about the form... 07-19-2019, 07:57 PM
Grandef Ok. That makes sense to me.... 07-19-2019, 08:14 PM
nikolgiorgos That started before about 1,5... 07-20-2019, 08:12 AM
khris 126129 07-20-2019, 02:05 PM
nikolgiorgos no more experts here... 07-21-2019, 01:02 PM
EastsiderSG LMAO, you guys are funny 07-21-2019, 01:30 PM
nikolgiorgos My two semifinals. Before... 09-07-2019, 05:17 PM
IImaestroII This thing affected me a lot,... 09-07-2019, 10:41 PM
nikolgiorgos This many times also... 09-08-2019, 05:32 AM
Kelpie Grant Luck flow ? yeah not so sure... 09-08-2019, 05:45 AM
nikolgiorgos Luck doesn't occur in every... 09-08-2019, 08:26 AM
IImaestroII Ok i will use my case as an... 09-08-2019, 11:32 AM
nikolgiorgos it's not a slot machine, it's... 09-09-2019, 06:49 PM
Lucian1986 Backgammon is a game of... 09-09-2019, 07:14 PM
Lucian1986 Khris, it isn't just about... 09-09-2019, 07:19 PM
khris Ohh yeah, it is a differance... 09-09-2019, 09:37 PM
Tactician This is the problem. Like I... 09-09-2019, 08:28 PM
Lucian1986 Arguments are on point and I... 09-09-2019, 08:38 PM
gogs67 We've gone over it before... 09-09-2019, 10:04 PM
Berlitz If people wanted to play... 09-10-2019, 12:06 AM
Ludo_Mansio So I took the backgammon... 09-10-2019, 07:49 AM
nikolgiorgos I close temporary this thread... 09-10-2019, 05:22 PM
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  1. #11
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    @niko


    I'm only going into 6 now. I don't get how you can call something a troll result though. Surely you can only define a game as unwinnable if you can load up the game and try it over and over with different tactics and never win. I've had a result I thought wasn't right, but generally I missed an abnormal amount of shots and they scored their only shot or something. It happens in real life too.

    I'm trying to understand what my presence does to the game, whether possesion isn't always a good thing. I'm not saying more possession is always good, I'm debating mechanics

    And to Tactician. Luck DOES play a massive role in real life, to say that it doesn't just means that you don't watch football. How many deflected goals go in in a season? How many penalties are given that shouldn't be, or vice versa? How many times does the team get lucky and score a goal after being dominated during the end of the game? How many bad backpasses are there? How many goalkeeper fumbles? Bad defensive decisions by great players? Own goals...I could go on. These are all events you would consider as lucky or not if they happened in the game. As there aren't actually real players playing, you need some form of rolls to demonstrate real life within the game.

    You are basically saying you want to take the "luck" out of the game, I'm sorry, but that is life. The "better team" doesn't always win, look at the Premier league this season, and just about any football match you want - luck plays a part. The trick is to manage your team sifficently well so that you are on the right side of attacking rolls more than on the wrong side of defensive rolls more often than not.

    If you take some element of luck out of this game, it would be boring as hell. The better quality team would win 100% of the time when people played good tactics, and the same guy would win all the time.
    Last edited by Andrew Nifield; 04-29-2016 at 02:54 PM.
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