Association turnaments getting boring ?

[nikolgiorgos]

Nice post Nik.
I totally echo your sentiment that playing association has become a bit boring over the past 2 seasons.
However, placing limit on players quality is not something that sounds good.
Getting players to 7 stars is not too difficult with right training and if you stop progress after that, it defeats the purpose of power training someone.

I agree with the proposal of loans, but in a different way.
A suggestion would be to limit the loans per team to 5, but you can only loan 1 player from any team.
SO if there is a strong 9 star team with 5 weaker teams, each of the weaker teams can get only 1 strong player from the 9 star team.
This would go a long way in evening out the playing field for the matchups.

As far as the association draws are concerned, I believe the Nordeus philosophy is to draw all teams around same star level and association division.
Facing teams in same association level is understandable, since both of you are competing for the same next level.
If a GOLD1 team faces a Bronze1 team, it might not be fair since 1 is competing for Platinum and 1 for Silver3.
However, what annoys me is the fact that a 6 star association in GOLD1 does not get a chance at a 5 star association in GOLD1.
If the 2 associations are competing for the same next division, they should compete against each other to get there.

- yes, to make 7* players isn't much but to build 9*-10* players is something you can't do it with a simple farming and training.
Also I disagree with what mac spotted. At this period 99% of the superb teams of 9*-10* players aren't token buyers.
they are exploiters or managers who stayed some seasons and gathered some thousands greens.

About the division I don't agree with your point because there isn't a specific number of teams there.
If it was for example 1000 positions in Platinum division, then yes, I should play with a platinum group to compete for one of those positions.

[nikolgiorgos]

I liked FA a lot, but with the beginning of the loan exploit, it got really boring and annoying. Our FA still playing, because of the 100T every month... and not because of fun. Maybe Nordeus can fix it, to become funny again. But I doubt...


I see another 3 possibilities:

-) completly random draw or
-) the punish-draw like new CL: the higher the FA on the raking, the more high quality is the draw:
world 1 is 5*, so they get a draw with 7-8* FA. -> but if this comes, TM has to be closed during the weekend.
-) prizes based on FIFA list, like:
If World 1 (points 1600) plays against 500 (1200 points), #1 got only one token for a victory nothing more, #500 got 1 token for each goal they score, 1 for each draw and 2 for each win. If #500 win, they earn 50 additional.
prizes can be based on the difference of the points or only on the position on the list.
No prizes at the end of the season.

I agree with you nash.
There is no fun for me, I play only for the reward and not let down my team mates.

I agree with the 1st and 3rd suggestion, not agree with the 2nd cause this can lead to a different type of manipulation.

Generally I 'm not against of every kind of manipulation in the other competitions (that's another discussion ), but at least asso games must be to have fun.

[pcmacdaniel]

No, absolutly disagree.
This season, we have world 11 - THE LIONS in there. Their whole FA started at 5*, because there's a 1* team. after the draw, he bought 8 player from the scoutlist, loaned 3 8* player and has now a quality of 126%. The FA raised up to 7*. This isn't much fair to normal tansfermarket. Maybe you think, 8 scouts are expensive - yes, for sure, but in this way it's only pay2win.

The only thing, what makes me wonder: they were only 5* before the draw, why they were put to 3 7* FAs?

5* association placed with three 7* FA's? Hmmm...., that's very interesting. Maybe nordeus is dropping the quality of the lowest quality team for the purpose of calculating the draw? Or they're flagging statistical outliers? I don't know, for sure, it's very interesting however. I know in mine, we've had bad draws lately, and its a 15% quality gap between our 5 and 6 seeds. Our 6 seed is still around 103% however.

[Kaizer Franz]

Pff.... well is not easy all this XD

I think that the draws should be made using the promide of AvQ that the assos' had when last round of last Sunday maches started.... so then theres no space for modifying the Q. during the season and do decrease of Q. at least as now.l.

I am very surprise that every people in this thread unknow the association draw rules because it is already the case !! Each tournament take your last sunday average quality .... But there is some little things to avoid this ^^ it depends if your final is the last final between this for the 1st place and the other one for the third place ....

And there is anothers big details for the draw but now i shout my mouth 😂😂😂

[Kaizer Franz]

TM has to be closed during the weekend..

Finally (I know that many of you may disagree) reduce the token price of Platinum division and for World top 10. 100 or 200 token is a motive for a manager to try to “abuse” the system.

I really think that you take yourselves for the center of the world ....

People here have really and completly silly suggestions only motive by the fact that they found people better than them in creating adaptative tactics to take advantage which is completly normal human

NOW i will give my new suggestion: if you want to play top elevem you must having a uniforme , no rewards and only a unique style of playing

It will be so awesome ����������������� ��


HEIL !

[nikolgiorgos]

I am very surprise that every people in this thread unknow the association draw rules because it is already the case !! Each tournament take your last sunday average quality .... But there is some little things to avoid this ^^ it depends if your final is the last final between this for the 1st place and the other one for the third place ....

and where are those draw rules ?

[dsio]

and where are those draw rules ?

I am very interested in getting answer to this question.


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[khris]

I am very surprise that every people in this thread unknow the association draw rules because it is already the case !! Each tournament take your last sunday average quality .... But there is some little things to avoid this ^^ it depends if your final is the last final between this for the 1st place and the other one for the third place ....

And there is anothers big details for the draw but now i shout my mouth ������������������

...¬¬' where have you seen that xD

[Kaizer Franz]

When the dead line for next tournament appear the game record the average quality of the FA group . It is written anywhere of course it is only months and months of personnal analyse and draw results . But this is only part of hhe draw cause there are some more details that i don't want everybody know and no need to PM me i will shout my mouth for the must important part loool

[nikolgiorgos]

ah, ok, to clarify this, it's your observation , not some nordeus rules.

I 'm not sure about this because in older times with one group, we switched one spare team for the next draw (with a weaker one) and as I remember, this adjustment helped us many times with the draw.
Now in Gold 3 or Platinum, I can't see that any more.

* also i see that in the beginning of the asso, my group was facing another one with "1 to 1" same qualities.
Now it's a mix/ avg.