So far I have seen no one said YES to this update. Nordeus, why you still want to continue?
So far I have seen no one said YES to this update. Nordeus, why you still want to continue?
I think managers should mobilize to protest recent changes and demand rollback.
One thought doesn't want out of my brain:
This update is based on our feedback. Hm... no one likes that.
We gave a lot of feedback and ideas to Nordeus... but they don't care...
If Nordeus ever listened carefully to us, this update had to bring back alltime and season history, flags,...
Now... we know, old version was killed for THIS??
Nasharak FC - Club Museum
updates every new seasonI don't buy token.
I don't manipulate the draw.
retired
League: 26x
Champions League: 24x
Cup: 20x
Triple: 18x
FA (Platinum)
stats worthless because of
exploiting and bug-weekend
Hi fellow managers,
I have read most of the comments on the new auction system and I see virtually everyone hates it. I dont know. Probably you all will hate my opinion but I need to say: I LIKE THE CHANGES. I also need to say I dont understand many of the compaints I have read. I will try to explain why I like the new system.
1. Its quick. If you need to sell a player, you get a result in 4 minutes instead of waiting several hours. If you fail to sell, you will get next chance in 4 minutes. If you want to buy a player, and he is available, he is yours in 4 minutes. If he is not available, in 4 miutes you get another chance. I like the speed.
2. I think it will save me many tokens when buying. Before, I lost most tokens on lost auctions. I went to the auction, and after several rounds the price had already became too high, but I kept bidding however, because I wanted to prevent myself from loosing the tokens when I quit. At the end, I bought the player for much more tokens I intended at the beginning. And from time to time, I really had to quit and lost much more tokens for nothing. Now, I can set my limit for buying the player, and if the auction goes higher, I simply quit without any loss and try another player if few minutes. Much better for me.
3. I think there will be higher chance to sell. Maybe it depends on the server and level, but at my level (14) on my server I was not really able to sell players lately. I tried to sell two players before today and I kept failing to sell for 7 days (!!!). I lost my academy player because I was not able to make room for him in my squad. Today, I sold both during 5 attempts. Maybe your server at your levels are more busy and you always sold, but obviously it depended on the server. If the new system brings more consistency across the servers, I like it.
Many of you say its insane when lvl3 manager can bid against lvl40 manager. Why? I dont care who bids agains me at all. Whats the difference? What matters is the _number_ of people bidding, not their levels. If the new system shows there are tens managers bidding at each player, and at the end it will cost you i.e. 30 tokens to win each player, then yes, lets complaint. I am watching the current today auctions and most of the players, including the best ones, young ones, etc. are available for 1 token. Whats wrong with that, guys? Of course, lets see what happens at the beginning of the next season. But I believe there will still be chances to buy for low, without a risk of loosing tokens when quitting the auction. But lets wait and see.
Many of you ask "why the hell does the stupid Nordeus fix something it is not broken"? The fact you do not see something broken does not mean it really is not broken. You need to consider there are 150 millions of fellow players, different levels, different servers. I can imagine one more reason for the new system. There are many millions of TE users but most of them are low levels. I can imagine the higher level you are, the fewer players you compete with at the same level because people simply quit the game but noone can join the game at level 45 for instance. Logically, at the top levels there are only the managers who started many years ago and their number is continuously decreasing. If they can meet only the same level mgrs on their TM, it may be difficult for these top level managers to buy and sell, and their auction lists may be very limited, especially on some servers. Nordeus needs to deal with this situation somehow otherwise sooner or later the high-level managers on some servers may not be able to buy and sell at all. Cancelling the "same level auctions only" policy may be the response. I am not sure, just trying to think
There are many other points in the discussion I completely disagree with. For example:
- "Very few players appear on the auction(probably 15-20), and all the managers of the world are open to bid on them!" - Are you sure of it? Are you sure all 150 millions of T11 players worldwide see the same 15-20 players? I dont think so. There may be different lists.
- " players with 6* CANNOT be sold as they are 6* for managers at ALL levels and not eliglable for auction" - obviously incorrect. I sold 6 stars player today.
There are few complaints I fully agree with, for example the missing statistics (I also used them to decide whether I wanted the player). But as I said, in general I like the changes, I believe it will make the auctions quicker, it will give us more chances to buy and sell, it will work better across servers, it may also work better at high levels and at the end, I believe it will save us some tokens on lost auctions and on auctions where we buy for more than intended.
Dont you guys want to give the new system a chance and dont give it your "hates" until it really proves to be wrong?
(I am not an agent of Nordeus, believe me But dont hesitate to hate my post if you feel I am completely wrong.)
Santa
@ Santa, pls notice, I respect your opionen, but, I think, you don't want to see the problems:
1.) 4min waiting is... maybe a great idea, BUT... before the update, I checked market after server reset (0-2 hours... depended on how long my kids slept), if there was an interesting player, I put him to favorites and set alarm, to wake up or think of him.
Today... same like ever: ~1 hour after server reset, my boy woke up, checked the market... nothing, but wait, only 3 mins to go. Next round... another boring player... 5 times I refreshed the list for... YES... nothing. So, this costs me a lot more time than old system. And a lot more battery...
I needed a week to find my new ST, BUT... on time... it costs me... 5min.
You should know: I'm a manager. I stay a long time with my players (~10 seasons or more). I replace my players not like socks or underwear. A replacement will be well thought.
This update is just for the app hoppers, who need instand action. In this case... I fear the day, where all the manager gave the feedback for the 2-week-season.
2.) your first argument leads to the second. If you don't fear losing your token... your tokens are worthless. No one will care about tokens in a 4 min auction. Before... you saw a player and had enough time to think, if you need him. How many tokens to spend... That's managing. You knew the other bidders on the level, you knew, if one of the Tokenbuyer is there, don't waste more tokens, and so on.
Now... there are biddings like hell... I saw 30T gone for a 31 y.o. DC; I saw a 18 y.o. ML/AML gone for 67T... cause only one bidder lost his token...
3.) Sry, but if you are level 14 and "moan", you can't sell player at last week... it shows perfectly, for whom this update is.
And... we now have 25 slots... EVERY (good) manager knows, he get 4 youngster every season, so if you don't have a slot for this guys, it's just mismanaging.
This game was more than log in and play your daily game. It was a great managing game. Take a time and look to all the successful managers in this forum, and think about, what they all did, to become successful.
Nasharak FC - Club Museum
updates every new seasonI don't buy token.
I don't manipulate the draw.
retired
League: 26x
Champions League: 24x
Cup: 20x
Triple: 18x
FA (Platinum)
stats worthless because of
exploiting and bug-weekend
First impression of the new transfer market is a negative one. It is too soon to say that for the full 100% since I still need to try the market out. We will know the full effect in less then a week when the new season starts.
I agree with Santa about some stuff. In the netflixseries Iron Fist a saying is used that says "a frog in the well does not understand the sea". This could be something like that. It would however be nice if Nordeus actually explained something sometime. I still feel this game is too random, no control, everybody is getting good results, so maybe it is all scripted and we have no influence. Just feels like that and it is getting worse with the new update.
I hope Nordeus will take the comments of the players seriously and rethink certain stuff and finally start to explain the game. As in how much difference does a special ability make for example.
FC Knudde:
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League won: 33
CL won: 10
Cup won: 4
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Seasons: 32
League won: 20
CL won: 6
Superleague: 3
Cup won: 7
I think it's a hit and miss, mostly miss though.
- Auctions are faster, and that's good, but it can also be bad if you don't open the game frequently. You may miss a lot more good players now.
- Same goes for selling. Before you had to put your player in the transfer market, wait a few hours and get profit or try again. Now you have to retry every 4 minutes if you are not lucky. Faster money and faster selling without wasting hours of wait, but it's only matter of luck. Again you have to open the game more frequently. On a sidenote I sold a player for 97M and he got sold for 75M??
- Auctions can get expensive, but there are also a lot more tokens available than before. Association prizes and daily sponsorships made more tokens available for everyone. I thought it was great some time ago, but now, just like in real life, they get devaluated and you can just pour them everywhere
There are a lot more problems in the game that needs a urgent update and fix and this auction update wasn't really a must have. I'm seeing some ideas, but not well put together, it could have been better.
Last edited by Tyltyl; 04-26-2017 at 09:19 AM.
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nordeus is controlling the market buying is going to be very expensive selling is going to be very cheap. Simply because nordeus is doing the buying and selling. Player you sell is bought by them. More bad then good.