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    CK specialists do not work anymore

    So for both my teams I had a very good rated players having CK special ability.
    Both of them at most matches played as ST.

    2 season ago their assists from CK were huuuuge.
    From mid last season the ratio dropped pretty low.

    I had games with 12+ corners, animation showed me 8-10 of them, all of them CK icon was blinking, but the ball was sent to no-one.
    It was like all my players were afraid of the oppo's goal post sitting at the edge of penalty area.

    So starting few matches ago, I replaced the kickers for both my teams and picked randomly some defenders, mostly wing defenders.

    CK corner-goals have grown again.
    Ratio increased.
    From animation pov it seems that my penalty area is more crowded and especially my st is always in front of the oppo's gk making trouble in oppo's defenders.

    Has anyone observed likewise?
    It seems that is an algorithm twist so when you assign an attacking player for corner kick taker, you blow your chances for corner-goal as your penalty area is less crowded.

    So on the overall, CK SA plays no role anymore, but the position indeed does.
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    yea, I know
    two months before, my post #33
    from here
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...-thread-4.html
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    And the corner become even worse if your kicker is the ST.

    Check your "9", his position in you screenshots.
    Was he your striker?

    For me when I used my ST as a kicker, the position of the 9 was empty, no player of mine filled the gap, so I had a corner kick i a sinkhole of oppo's defenders
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    the weird is not that the player with CK sa is failing.
    That happened many times in the past.
    The weird is that the sa symbol is blinking when it seems that the corner is failing (not even close to my players).
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    I really think that SA blinking is just visual effect and SA-s are useless
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    but when a defender's sa like "wall" or "header" is blinking, they truly send the ball away.
    Those are working good.
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    only wall, aerial and freekick have good effect the rest are somehow useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    but when a defender's sa like "wall" or "header" is blinking, they truly send the ball away.
    Those are working good.
    The shots are also blocked without SA. There just isn't the neat icon
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    7 seasons ago I trained my 2 wide midfielders with SAs. 1 as a dribbler, the other with the super shot thing. I have been most unimpressed. Both players are still starters, but I have to say I expected more from their special abilities.
    Recently trained a MC with free kick SA and he puts more into the wall, wide or into the car park than he gets on target. Would at least expect him to force the opposition keeper to work.
    So I'd agree that SA training seems to make little to no difference.
    I'll only use it in future to put the brakes on players I want to appear on next seasons negotiations lists.
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    SA is such a thing... I don't know, if it's good or worthless...

    I have some theories:

    1.) SA have to suit to the player, that means: Try out, if he kicks good from corner, check him as FK,... If he is a good CK, CK would push him to a really good kicker:
    --) example: a RL-friend bought an AML 2 season ago, he set him FK/CK and penalty. At his first 10 games, he scored no FK (~25), he made a good amount of assists vom CK (I think, 8 of 30), he didn't score much - especially he didn't score from wide away (like SS). He decided to give him CK: the rest of the season he played 10 more games, made 14 assists.
    last season: 44 games played, 41 assists.
    this season: 18 games played, 15 assists.

    2.) Key attributes matters:
    I said a few times, I had PM, who kicked the corners. And they also did it... my "current" corner-kick-PM has high passing, crossing and creativity skills. He made average 25 assists/season.

    BUT... on the other hand, Sperl made average also 25 assists/season, without that high % at passing, crossing and creativity.
    And Costa... who has the highest % in my team... kicks good corner (SA=FK), but not that good like my the CK of my friend

    3.) it's just a hidden "script", who performs good...
    example: I sold Weigl this season. At his new club, he kicks all FK. I saw ~5 games and nearly every FK leads to a goal.
    At this club, there's also a ST with FK. 2 times, Weigl was subed, so I saw the ST on FK... but he scored not a single one.
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