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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    ...I realized that he's using a V style formation.... since time I've been reading here and personally that this formation seems to fail more lately.... so this just help to confirm the "V conspiration theory" (uuuuhhh muahahahahahahahaha -phantom screamings and so as background sound- LOL)
    4-5-1 V-style has been failing enough times in the past too. I myself I failed a lot with 4-5-1(V) (way back, that is in 2015) despite having won a few leagues with it. I never even achieved a double when I was using it. It is one of the reasons why I don't fancy that formation and even have some sort of hate against it. I have won much more using other formations. Maybe some managers, by chance, they faced a lot of teams where 4-5-1(V) and the orders used were good counters for the ones faced, or maybe a combination of both this and the 'roll of dices' involved in the game. But, in many cases, including those on the forum here itself (no offence intended), those using 4-5-1(V) have overpowered teams; so, their successes are not really because of the formation but because of the significant superiority in quality the team using 4-5-1(V) had. I did not have such an advantage in quality or so much overpowered wingers when I was using 4-5-1(V) as my main formation. Put equal quality 4-5-1(V) versus equal quality other formations (and no bias or quality fooling, that is no overpowered wingers but with under-powered players at other positions) to face each other in the same league and knock-out competitions for several seasons, and we will see if 4-5-1(V) ends up as being so good as some claim or think it is in this game. I doubt it will end up among the top 2 or 3 formations concerning this game. But lately, I noticed that odd formations or what would be rare formations have done well, and based on the matches I have played this season, formation does not seem to really matter much as compared to way before.

    Ah, and don't forget about the striker 'conspiracy' that made that line about 4-3-3 in your signature no more valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
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    Ah, and don't forget about the striker 'conspiracy' that made that line about 4-3-3 in your signature no more valid.
    Probably exist a good reason why a V formation "tend" to fail more, and for sure is the way in what the game do the simulations, too when creates the 1vs1, decide how to solve these situations etc..... is related to the same reason why since september '15 the STs stopped working as before.... or when for example we have situations in 10 vs 11 in what seems that suddenly after a player has been sent off, "his negative impact dissappear" and the team seems to play way better with 10 than with 11.... yesterday I was winning 2-0 in the assos' and when the other team saw a double yellow just needed 3 minutes of game to score,.,,

    All is related with the calibration inside the simulator.... and sure is not so easy understand how works exactly and in what way can be improved to create "better simulations"..

    By myself since I started participating in the forum I did many suggestions, and ofc Ive ma opinion, related to the fact that right now many factors count to decide a match result, and the addition of training bonuses and eliminate, as the devs did, the limit in the skills, so one can have 1%'s and skills at 20* this really IMO create more foolish simulations...

    I only used bascally 3 main formations in the 57 seasons that Ive managed the FCBayern, the 4-3-3 was the first and worked me well... then I started switching a ST as AMC sometimes and gave me success.... then since the changes related with the STrikers, when they suddenly stopped working as before, and I realized that the 2nd attack line was more decisive, I started using the actual 4-2-3w-1 and for now works enough well for now and I hope the game will not do unexpected changes with some lnes of players xD
    The joke with the signature for those who don't know abot what is related, comes from a pic of a dev' when they introduced this feature in our profiles that say what is our most common used formation, cause the pic they added in the post for some reason showed the 4-4-3 as formation used so, was then when I added this info in ma signature xD


    By the way Tactician, do you play more competitions right now than the assos'? just read that you started playin again for 4th time

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post

    By the way Tactician, do you play more competitions right now than the assos'? just read that you started playin again for 4th time


    I thought about posting some pictures, not only concerning this topic but also in some other threads, but I am using mobile internet (data package) these days as where I am, there is no internet by line, and the ISP, despite that the application was made more than a month ago, still has not come to do the necessary and release the internet.

    Last season, I came back playing, but no more that seriously. I have put it in my forum's signature. My team won the Cup and the Nivea League, and it came out 3rd in the league. So this season, it is League, Champions League and Cup. My team got knocked-out of the semi-final stage in the Cup, so for now the league and the Champions League are left, though it seems for the league it will be more likely second place unless the 1st place lose at least 2 points from the remaining matches to be played without my team losing any points.

    By the way, why did you refer to my nickname in a comment on FB where t11 fan was referring to another forum user that had the 'tactic' part in his nickname . It was not me that asked about 'how to counter' in my first post. As a forum moderator, you could have checked what my 1st post was to confirm. Oh, and I am not sure if you checked the private message I sent when I was around last year (2016). That thing between us, that ended badly on your side, was due to your misunderstanding. What I said on one forum post (way back) was for another person who had the part 'rat' in his forum name and he was ungrateful towards me despite that I helped him, hence why I said 'ungrateful rat' in the post. I gave so many indications later that it was not you, but you did not get it. I hope now you get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    I thought.... and much more things

    ^^

    Thats time ago cause as far as I remember I don't know of T11 fan since months... and months ago.... probably you refeer to Perfect tactics which was the team name of dv8r and J4th ¿? now really I don't know about what are you talking about.

    Regarding the PMs I usually have the PM's forlder full, but I think I rember reading about something from you, but really Tactician, I don't have to get anything apart from my own opinion, which I have very clear. Then related to my mod job I think we all understand that calling ungrateful rat is something that should not happen here, despite how you helped, or how really ungrateful one person is with others.

    Here the thing is not stay pending of what others say of what one do, the thing is stay in peace with what one do, thats all, despite how others react, so, you tryed the best? thats what you wanted to do? so why regret? the other person if is ungrateful, ungrateful is, let him be who is and everyone in the end will recive what they sow, life is enough intelligent doing that, belive me, I say this after do 32 home changes in all my life and know hundreds of stories. I can understand that we all would like to see and we "wait" others act like we expect or doing things with our same "good intention" but 90% cases is not what happens.
    Live and let life.
    Hope this 4th time that you came despite our differances related to the game and how understand it (maybe we only share the hobby to writte way longer lol) we just will not have so many troubles or whichever occurred earlier with our viewpoints.


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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    ^^

    Thats time ago cause as far as I remember I don't know of T11 fan since months... and months ago.... probably you refeer to Perfect tactics which was the team name of dv8r and J4th ¿? now really I don't know about what are you talking about.

    Regarding the PMs I usually have the PM's forlder full, but I think I rember reading about something from you, but really Tactician, I don't have to get anything apart from my own opinion, which I have very clear. Then related to my mod job I think we all understand that calling ungrateful rat is something that should not happen here, despite how you helped, or how really ungrateful one person is with others.

    Here the thing is not stay pending of what others say of what one do, the thing is stay in peace with what one do, thats all, despite how others react, so, you tryed the best? thats what you wanted to do? so why regret? the other person if is ungrateful, ungrateful is, let him be who is and everyone in the end will recive what they sow, life is enough intelligent doing that, belive me, I say this after do 32 home changes in all my life and know hundreds of stories. I can understand that we all would like to see and we "wait" others act like we expect or doing things with our same "good intention" but 90% cases is not what happens.
    Live and let life.
    Hope this 4th time that you came despite our differances related to the game and how understand it (maybe we only share the hobby to writte way longer lol) we just will not have so many troubles or whichever occurred earlier with our viewpoints.

    Yes was about the posts about Perfect Tactics, and t11_fan mentioned something about a user (Master of Tactics or something that had tactics in his username) that asked 'how to counter' here on the forum as his first post, then you said Tactician (and so on) in reply.

    Wt..? When did I ask 'how to counter' as my first post? Khris, I will beat you. I rarely even asked how to counter this or that here on this forum.

    About the ungrateful thing, the person was like pushing me away, telling me to go away from here after all the help I provided to him. So, he was indeed ungrateful, and given that he had 'rat' in his username, I said ungrateful rat.
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