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    Yes. I trolled a team 7-1 after they beat me 4-1. A troll occurs when the result is ridiculous in light of the quality of the teams and whether the team is being managed. For this reason, a result of 8-0 when both teams are similar in quality and both are managed is a troll.

    For me, these are typical troll results:

    - An abandoned team that is 20%+ lower in quality wins or draw
    - An abandoned team that is 40%+ lower in quality loses by less than 2 goals
    - An actively managed team that is between 10-20% lower in quality wins by more than 1 goal
    - An actively managed team that is between 10% lower in quality and 10% higher in quality wins by more than 4 goals.

    The hallmarks of a troll result:

    - the opponent barely gets a shot on target but the goals per shot on target are 80%+
    - a 15%+ weaker team has approximately 33% possession but has almost the same number of shots on target and shots as the better team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucian1986 View Post
    Yes. I trolled a team 7-1 after they beat me 4-1. A troll occurs when the result is ridiculous in light of the quality of the teams and whether the team is being managed. For this reason, a result of 8-0 when both teams are similar in quality and both are managed is a troll.

    For me, these are typical troll results:

    - An abandoned team that is 20%+ lower in quality wins or draw
    - An abandoned team that is 40%+ lower in quality loses by less than 2 goals
    - An actively managed team that is between 10-20% lower in quality wins by more than 1 goal
    - An actively managed team that is between 10% lower in quality and 10% higher in quality wins by more than 4 goals.

    The hallmarks of a troll result:

    - the opponent barely gets a shot on target but the goals per shot on target are 80%+
    - a 15%+ weaker team has approximately 33% possession but has almost the same number of shots on target and shots as the better team.
    An active 10-20% weaker team can win by 1 goal or more if the stronger opponent had many of the other factors against him. For example, if the opponent got a decent fraction of his tactics wrong and top of that he got a bad roll of the dice. That will be not be a troll as 20% quality advantage is not expected to overcome the bad effects of the other 2 factors.

    Maybe the game is significantly more about luck these days as compared to 3-4 years ago, and hence why more unexpected results happen. They reduced the complexity in the calculation match outcomes maybe to reduce CPU and RAM loads on servers, and hence cut operating costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    An active 10-20% weaker team can win even by 2 goals or more if you have many of the other factors against you. For example, if you got your tactics wrong and top of that you got a bad roll of the dice. That will be not be a troll as 20% quality advantage is not expected to overcome the bad effects of the other 2 factors.

    Maybe the game is significantly more about luck these days as compared to 3-4 years ago, and hence why more unexpected results happen. They reduced the complexity in the calculation match outcomes maybe to reduce CPU and RAM loads on servers and hence cut operating costs.
    The assumption is that if you are losing and much stronger, you would change your tactics. A bad roll of the dice is a troll in the making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucian1986 View Post
    The assumption is that if you are losing and much stronger, you would change your tactics. A bad roll of the dice is a troll in the making.
    Yes, it is a troll if they set the total % effect that random variables have on match outcomes too high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucian1986 View Post
    Yes. I trolled a team 7-1 after they beat me 4-1. A troll occurs when the result is ridiculous in light of the quality of the teams and whether the team is being managed. For this reason, a result of 8-0 when both teams are similar in quality and both are managed is a troll.

    For me, these are typical troll results:

    - An abandoned team that is 20%+ lower in quality wins or draw
    - An abandoned team that is 40%+ lower in quality loses by less than 2 goals
    - An actively managed team that is between 10-20% lower in quality wins by more than 1 goal
    - An actively managed team that is between 10% lower in quality and 10% higher in quality wins by more than 4 goals.

    The hallmarks of a troll result:

    - the opponent barely gets a shot on target but the goals per shot on target are 80%+
    - a 15%+ weaker team has approximately 33% possession but has almost the same number of shots on target and shots as the better team.
    I had a league match with an active manager who was present during the match. He was about 35% weaker than me. I lost this match 2-1. What was strange is that he used a very offensive formation 4 1(MC) 3 (AMRLC) 2 and had a player sent off at 70" but statistics showed a very equal match. Don't know if it was a trolled match or I had a bad luck or I am a bad manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    I guess when you are on the winner's side, it is not counted as troll.
    There are so many understandable complaints about troll results and related things but you will rarely see someone complaining when his team is the one that trolled others and came out as the winner.
    I beat a 22% better team 4-1 a year ago which I feel was troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max McClean View Post
    I beat a 22% better tam 4-1 one year ago.
    Well... beating a stronger team by a large score or losing versus a weaker team by a large score may also not be troll results as such. A result can be considered to be a troll one if the manager on the losing side managed his team properly but lost to a much weaker team that had no management; like there is no other valid explaination why such a bad result happen.
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    Feels like the trolling has gone up lately. What is happening? I have played 480 games, lost 21 times and 5 of those losses came in the last week against teams that were 15-35% weaker. Every time, I get some moronic comment "They really impressed", "We did everything but score", "We had a bad day out there", etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berlitz View Post
    Feels like the trolling has gone up lately. What is happening? I have played 480 games, lost 21 times and 5 of those losses came in the last week against teams that were 15-35% weaker. Every time, I get some moronic comment "They really impressed", "We did everything but score", "We had a bad day out there", etc...
    New updates, more rubbish from Nordeus.
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