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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    My usual formation 4-5-1 V never had good results vs 4-4-2.
    That formation doesn't have AMs so the DMC is not necessary.
    4-4-2 is a flat formation so counters with 3 AMs can work good - or the high pressing and normal attacks from all sides.
    Setting man to man (I used high press +mtm) can prevent from counters of ML-MR or my 2 MCs defend oppo 2 MCs.
    4-4-2 can be used to counter 4-5-1V as well. A flat line of 4 followed by 2 ST is good to score versus a line a 4-DMC-2MC, while 4 wide flat back versus 3W is enough. You need to consider this important point: 442 usually attacks the flanks and it also defends the flanks. What 451V does? It attacks the flanks but defends the middle. Even N.D succumbs to 442 at times because while it can score versus 4-4-2, it can conceed a lot too, because it attacks the middle but defends the middle. In my opinion, 4-4-2 is among the hardest formation to beat. You go narrow, and it can exploit you wide, you go wide and it can exploit you in the middle, and when the MR and ML are high up with supporting full-backs, it is such a pain to deal with. Putting 3 MC in the middle can be a key to beat 4-4-2. Even T11 FB asked this question many years ago, does 3 in the middle always beat 4-4-2, something like this, but consider that the game engine changed a lot too and it might not be the same now or with same effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    4-4-2 can be used to counter 4-5-1V as well. A flat line of 4 followed by 2 ST is good to score versus a line a 4-DMC-2MC, while 4 wide flat back versus 3W is enough. Even N.D succumbs to this at times because while it can score versus 4-4-2, it can conceed a lot too. In my opinion, 4-4-2 is among the hardest formation to beat. You go narrow, and it can exploit you wide, you go wide and it can exploit you in the middle, and when the MR and ML are high up with supporting full-backs, it is such a pain to deal with.
    You can expose them defensively, I learnt this from the CL Semis A few seasons ago. I won the first leg 4-2. But what they seemed to be good at was through balls over my defence, we could not deal with their over the top balls and they scored 2 goals during that match, we scored 4 so who cares.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Max McClean View Post
    You can expose them defensively, I learnt this from the CL Semis A few seasons ago. I won the first leg 4-2. But what they seemed to be good at was through balls over my defence, we could not deal with their over the top balls and they scored 2 goals during that match, we scored 4 so who cares.


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    How you expose them defensively, tell me more. I am willing to learn new things and any information can be helpful. I, myself I know some ways, but it is still a hard fight when the opponent is good or when the bot manager decided to counter you hard with orders.
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