Worth getting this player?

[sasha m]

correction:
just did test, (and not the first time)

drill set GK, GK, GK, GK, GK, PGS (-16.5)
on 2 players: player A is AMR with 189 fitness. B is AMC with 32. both 18yo.
got them up on 99 condition before test.
after 4 repetitions
A was at 28, loss of 71
B was at 34, loss of 65
got them back to 99, another 4 rounds
A-31
B-29
seems to be averaging, right? up to 99, and another 4x of same set
A-29
B-29
interesting... up to only 89 this time, and last 2 repetitions was a shock:
A- 61
B- 71

test aborted due to lack of time and greens.
but if anything, player A with 6 times more fitness was having greater condition loss.
I will not jump in conclusions why is that, but there is no obvious conection between fitness skill and condition loss or speed of recovery (which is fixed, unfortunately)

[sasha m]

he has played 75 seasons, what do you know

[Toxcatl]

he has played 75 seasons, what do you know

I know that Fitness doesn't affect Condition loss -- I have done carefully prepared testing. You can find it here.
In short: I played a couple dozens of games against the same team to compare three very similar players with different Fitness to each other.
I have never cared to post the result, but it was a big fat zero. No correlation between Fitness and Condition loss in games, or it is tiny. Definitely less than anyone can noticed without having statistics.

[John Grant]

I know that Fitness doesn't affect Condition loss -- I have done carefully prepared testing. You can find it here.
In short: I played a couple dozens of games against the same team to compare three very similar players with different Fitness to each other.
I have never cared to post the result, but it was a big fat zero. No correlation between Fitness and Condition loss in games, or it is tiny. Definitely less than anyone can noticed without having statistics.

Thats your opinion and you are entitled to it but it doesnt correlate with my own experience. Agree to disagree and move on , to be honest I find it tedious to even try to argue with you KW's.

[nikolgiorgos]

Skills of defenders are cosmetic

(there aren't good defenders, only good defense)

[sasha m]

I know how seriously you examine things like that. my remark was not pointed at you, sad you don't get that.

[John Grant]

Just as an aside...........defenders skills/attributes are cosmetic so all players must be in the same situation , on other threads I have seen it said that , morale , formation , team orders etc..............basically everything doesnt matter in this game. I have even seen it suggested that the results across a season are pre ordained and therefore nothing we do as managers makes any difference at all. So what is left ? pure luck and circumstance ?
I refuse to believe this is the case.

Also can Nik please explain that if skills/ attributes dont matter and formations dont matter (as suggested on another thread) how does the comment.........there are no good defenders , just good defence......even become possible ?

[sasha m]

Thats your opinion and you are entitled to it but it doesnt correlate with my own experience.

just post your experience, show us that players who drain (lol) slower and recover faster

[sasha m]

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[theclubofwins]

no, i don't