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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    that's true.
    The motive (being at top100 asso groups) remains so we 'll see that for the next year
    - till they 'll find another trick.
    The problem is that Nordeus does not make any changes that must solve the problems, instead solutions are invented that complicate all life. the simplest example is the high psychophysics (2 skills) - instead of changing the algorithm for calculating the match, a restriction of 340 has been introduced, but now under the "up-saling" dressing we are again changing our workouts instead of closing the negotiations and at the same time doing nothing to close the frauds with ratings and tankers problem. This will go on forever - look at the association which now occupies 12th place - the players in it will have at least 7 more seasons to play.

    So far (right now) there is no closure of "up-saling" (farms). it's a lie that nordeus did it - hence it is possible to deduce that the time necessary for current players (whom nordeus calls mutants) to leave is not yet known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lalexrus View Post
    The problem is that Nordeus does not make any changes that must solve the problems, instead solutions are invented that complicate all life. the simplest example is the high psychophysics (2 skills) - instead of changing the algorithm for calculating the match, a restriction of 340 has been introduced, but now under the "up-saling" dressing we are again changing our workouts instead of closing the negotiations and at the same time doing nothing to close the frauds with ratings and tankers problem. This will go on forever - look at the association which now occupies 12th place - the players in it will have at least 7 more seasons to play.

    So far (right now) there is no closure of "up-saling" (farms). it's a lie that nordeus did it - hence it is possible to deduce that the time necessary for current players (whom nordeus calls mutants) to leave is not yet known.
    "the players in it will have at least 7 more seasons to play."

    But you can not manipulate right now, these players can not be created just once the draws are made even reselling them between 4 account or so.

    Guys then, stay with the idea that, during all these years, mostly of the time we the managers, lived together with a system of attributes that had a cap, of +20avQ between the max. group of skills and the worst (att-def-phis&mental groups, 5 attributes each) so, have a single skill to 9*, was really a privilege because one needed another group of attributes at 7*, max. I achieved when the SP was randomly allocated, 12* of speed, with a player that now I don't remember if had 9* or 7-8, but that was the cap.

    Then as I call it, we had the "liberalization of the training system" when the %'s were introduced and the +20avQ (+80%) cap was deleted -and many people here knows I was so against this measure - and, we reached single attributes levels till 1500+%. Then a cap was added but many people used their multi accounts to overincrease just few skills (in FAs mainly)-

    Personally I will never be agree with the statement of all those who say that "makes you a professional manager" ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶c̶u̶t̶i̶e̶ ̶b̶o̶y̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶e̶y̶e̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶ ̶m̶a̶m̶m̶a̶ do these type of trainings. Just a bright spark. And those amount of illuminated prepotent that come here saying that in life all is find the way of the abuse to achieve the things for me are absolutely out placed.

    So going again to the topic, "after the liberalization" of the system we went to, a different perspective in what 1st, the a single 9* attribute had a immense value, as was not easy to reach, to, have single skills of 90 stars, living together with a market leveled in 5*, which makes it imposible to coexist, and more in a game that have a high ratio of freedom to be played so where people can tank without any problem as it is part of the game, and too where mostly of managers have 1000+ boosters per season to train for free.

    And ye, the game have its system to give you equal rivals in the comps, but, this went too far away and was too much uncontrolled.

    Now, we come back again -and get used to the idea guys- to the valuation of the 9* as a really high level in all it's sense, as it was before.
    And this will change slightly in few weeks too the dynamic of playing not only for those who did a creation of what s called mutant players, -that is not something new, since I joined the game I always oversized the speed, but in a reasonable limit... so...-- too in the FAs there will be a effect.

    So yes, for all those who did not play the old versions the "valuation" of what you can reach now will have its impact. And it is logic, is like when for many of us suddenly, after 5 years of limitations between skills the cap was removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    "the players in it will have at least 7 more seasons to play."

    But you can not manipulate right now, these players can not be created just once the draws are made even reselling them between 4 account or so.
    1. I can not do players with high psychophysics (2 skills) - I agree. another question is that this is very few people and engaged in mass (except those who invented it).
    2. Up-saling is not closed, I repeat again, what the administrators of the nordeus write here has nothing to do with closing up-saling. and training has become more difficult and expensive - but you must understand that the very mechanism of selling through negotiations works and farmers will live well and have the advantage.

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    Now, we come back again -and get used to the idea guys- to the valuation of the 9* as a really high level in all it's sense, as it was before.
    I understand your logic, but it will not work right tomorrow in the current paradigm of the game (even with a changed training system). as already said - will be a minimum of 7 seasons that would "mutants" began to leave the game. Then yes - really 9 * of which you buy for 1000-1500 tokens will be the strongest player, but again if Nordeus eliminates all the other options available - tanking, fraud with the team line-up after the draw of associations (closing the auction), and the complete closure of negotiations . and "twist" (as Nordeus does occasionally) the mechanics of the game for the desire "9 * this is the coolest player" - this will kill the game completely (so apparently the management of Nordeus in the pursuit of extra 1k $ manages to spoil the game every season and more than once).

    I have repeatedly expressed the opinion of other managers (and in principle I agree with this) that the whole topic with a change in the training system arose because of complaints from managers who bought up players on offer for a lot of tokens, and that they were very weak players ... Although on In fact, this is a big question for Nordeus - and what about all the players on the proposals, what kind of players are at the auctions? For example, I have players with names in Russian - and when I sell them at an auction, they do not appear there with these names. It seems to me that some employees are not in their place - they do not know the game.
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    Hey guys, thank you for giving me a reason to research the App Store.

    First: The game is now trash, like this thread. My training sessions are all wasted. Its not the game I loved to play. (I wasn't have mutants in my team ever, but i have good players, and they stopped progressing from trainings)

    Second: You didn't publish anything helpful about this huge change. This thread is useless for every single user.

    Third: I wish you to have success with the new game. The game becomes too boring for me, cuz I'm limited in the choice how i would like to develope my players. It was the must exciting thing in this game, cuz I was a manager. Not Nordeus or f*****g Mourinho. I !!!

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    Realistically speaking, would a real world superstar run like an amateur.


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    Thanks Nordeus! BIG F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarcho View Post
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    Im amazed looking this line of 6 almost perfect lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    Im amazed looking this line of 6 almost perfect lol
    Yea! meet my OCD Khris xD
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    Makes me wonder which changes we don't know about that go unnoticed and nothing is said about.

    I really can't trust a company that behaves this way. I'm out guys.
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    Saucy, Jeeves, where is info on changes with training of players? Is it possible that you still don't have any news from developers?

    is progress of players now entirely in relation to percentages of attributes and not quality of players ( stars) ?
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