[Official] Changes to Training

[khris]

The problem is that Nordeus does not make any changes that must solve the problems, instead solutions are invented that complicate all life. the simplest example is the high psychophysics (2 skills) - instead of changing the algorithm for calculating the match, a restriction of 340 has been introduced, but now under the "up-saling" dressing we are again changing our workouts instead of closing the negotiations and at the same time doing nothing to close the frauds with ratings and tankers problem. This will go on forever - look at the association which now occupies 12th place - the players in it will have at least 7 more seasons to play.

So far (right now) there is no closure of "up-saling" (farms). it's a lie that nordeus did it - hence it is possible to deduce that the time necessary for current players (whom nordeus calls mutants) to leave is not yet known.

"the players in it will have at least 7 more seasons to play."

But you can not manipulate right now, these players can not be created just once the draws are made even reselling them between 4 account or so.

Guys then, stay with the idea that, during all these years, mostly of the time we the managers, lived together with a system of attributes that had a cap, of +20avQ between the max. group of skills and the worst (att-def-phis&mental groups, 5 attributes each) so, have a single skill to 9*, was really a privilege because one needed another group of attributes at 7*, max. I achieved when the SP was randomly allocated, 12* of speed, with a player that now I don't remember if had 9* or 7-8, but that was the cap.

Then as I call it, we had the "liberalization of the training system" when the %'s were introduced and the +20avQ (+80%) cap was deleted -and many people here knows I was so against this measure - and, we reached single attributes levels till 1500+%. Then a cap was added but many people used their multi accounts to overincrease just few skills (in FAs mainly)-

Personally I will never be agree with the statement of all those who say that "makes you a professional manager" ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶c̶u̶t̶i̶e̶ ̶b̶o̶y̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶e̶y̶e̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶y̶o̶ ̶m̶a̶m̶m̶a̶ do these type of trainings. Just a bright spark. And those amount of illuminated prepotent that come here saying that in life all is find the way of the abuse to achieve the things for me are absolutely out placed.

So going again to the topic, "after the liberalization" of the system we went to, a different perspective in what 1st, the a single 9* attribute had a immense value, as was not easy to reach, to, have single skills of 90 stars, living together with a market leveled in 5*, which makes it imposible to coexist, and more in a game that have a high ratio of freedom to be played so where people can tank without any problem as it is part of the game, and too where mostly of managers have 1000+ boosters per season to train for free.

And ye, the game have its system to give you equal rivals in the comps, but, this went too far away and was too much uncontrolled.

Now, we come back again -and get used to the idea guys- to the valuation of the 9* as a really high level in all it's sense, as it was before.
And this will change slightly in few weeks too the dynamic of playing not only for those who did a creation of what s called mutant players, -that is not something new, since I joined the game I always oversized the speed, but in a reasonable limit... so...-- too in the FAs there will be a effect.

So yes, for all those who did not play the old versions the "valuation" of what you can reach now will have its impact. And it is logic, is like when for many of us suddenly, after 5 years of limitations between skills the cap was removed.

[lalexrus]

"the players in it will have at least 7 more seasons to play."

But you can not manipulate right now, these players can not be created just once the draws are made even reselling them between 4 account or so.

1. I can not do players with high psychophysics (2 skills) - I agree. another question is that this is very few people and engaged in mass (except those who invented it).
2. Up-saling is not closed, I repeat again, what the administrators of the nordeus write here has nothing to do with closing up-saling. and training has become more difficult and expensive - but you must understand that the very mechanism of selling through negotiations works and farmers will live well and have the advantage.

Now, we come back again -and get used to the idea guys- to the valuation of the 9* as a really high level in all it's sense, as it was before.

I understand your logic, but it will not work right tomorrow in the current paradigm of the game (even with a changed training system). as already said - will be a minimum of 7 seasons that would "mutants" began to leave the game. Then yes - really 9 * of which you buy for 1000-1500 tokens will be the strongest player, but again if Nordeus eliminates all the other options available - tanking, fraud with the team line-up after the draw of associations (closing the auction), and the complete closure of negotiations . and "twist" (as Nordeus does occasionally) the mechanics of the game for the desire "9 * this is the coolest player" - this will kill the game completely (so apparently the management of Nordeus in the pursuit of extra 1k $ manages to spoil the game every season and more than once).

I have repeatedly expressed the opinion of other managers (and in principle I agree with this) that the whole topic with a change in the training system arose because of complaints from managers who bought up players on offer for a lot of tokens, and that they were very weak players ... Although on In fact, this is a big question for Nordeus - and what about all the players on the proposals, what kind of players are at the auctions? For example, I have players with names in Russian - and when I sell them at an auction, they do not appear there with these names. It seems to me that some employees are not in their place - they do not know the game.

[khris]

1. I can not do players with high psychophysics (2 skills) - I agree. another question is that this is very few people and engaged in mass (except those who invented it).
2. Up-saling is not closed, I repeat again, what the administrators of the nordeus write here has nothing to do with closing up-saling. and training has become more difficult and expensive - but you must understand that the very mechanism of selling through negotiations works and farmers will live well and have the advantage.


I understand your logic, but it will not work right tomorrow in the current paradigm of the game (even with a changed training system). as already said - will be a minimum of 7 seasons that would "mutants" began to leave the game. Then yes - really 9 * of which you buy for 1000-1500 tokens will be the strongest player, but again if Nordeus eliminates all the other options available - tanking, fraud with the composition of teams after the lot of associations (closing the auction), and the complete closure of negotiations . and "twist" (as Nordeus does occasionally) the mechanics of the game for the desire "9 * this is the coolest player" - this will kill the game completely (so apparently the management of Nordeus in the pursuit of extra 1k $ manages to spoil the game every season and more than once).

I can not do players with high psychophysics (2 skills) - I agree.
-This is not exact, as said, there has been a change in the valorization of the skills. Those who played all versions sure will get it soon despite that, theres no progress bar.

another question is that this is very few people and engaged in mass (except those who invented it).
-here I cant be agree, as a participant of many FB groups and so.... sorry :')


Up-saling is not closed, I repeat again, what the administrators of the nordeus write here has nothing to do with closing up-saling. and training has become more difficult and expensive - but you must understand that the very mechanism of selling through negotiations works and farmers will live well and have the advantage.
-The idea was not close the negotiations, was (at least I understand it like this) to stop the creation of players with oversized skills. Many of these players were created from tankers or multi level exploiters using nego's.
Now the thing has changed.


I understand your logic, but it will not work right tomorrow in the current paradigm of the game (even with a changed training system). as already said - will be a minimum of 7 seasons that would "mutants" began to leave the game. Then yes - really 9 * of which you buy for 1000-1500 tokens will be the strongest player, but again if Nordeus eliminates all the other options available - tanking, fraud with the composition of teams after the lot of associations (closing the auction), and the complete closure of negotiations . and "twist" (as Nordeus does occasionally) the mechanics of the game for the desire "9 * this is the coolest player" - this will kill the game completely (so apparently the management of Nordeus in the pursuit of extra 1k $ manages to spoil the game every season and more than once).

-I doubt Nordeus "will eliminate" all, (c'mon, we had simply a slight modification xD) the game really, had a lot of freedom to be played since the V1, and will still having.
There's a bug now related with the FAs draw ( as the best dont face the best, and so.... the draws use the avQ of the moment of the draw...) that I guess soon will be solved...
About negos I doubt will be closed, maybe the final measure that can be applied -despite I doubt it- is a limit per season in what a player can be sold there (let's say one time).

Then, about the mutants, and the period they will stay;
The game have a system, leagues are made using same avq teams, asso draws too... so, the main problem were the "instant and temporal mutants" , created for a short period of time, we know, that noone or almost no one who manipulates leagues, cups and FAs keep these players for a long time because the own system goes against them, so,,,, really... I'm really curious of how many mutant owners will act during next weeks...

And finally, I understand the point of many managers, believe me. As Ive said, we've been years, with a limited game, inside some parameters, and yes, looks more cool when you are limited and suddenly you can train till 70 stars a skill, than the inverse process, but this right now, keep the game inside more logical limits.