[Official] Changes to Training

[lalexrus]

Saucy, Jeeves, where is info on changes with training of players? Is it possible that you still don't have any news from developers?

is progress of players now entirely in relation to percentages of attributes and not quality of players ( stars) ?

attributes, age , avg % of player
but nordeus did not find it necessary to explain in detail (at the time of implementation)

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]is progress of players now entirely in relation to percentages of attributes and not quality of players ( stars) ?[/SIZE][/B][/U]

nice question !


I didn't make measurements but after few days of observation and testing, i can tell you that the progress now rely on four factors :

1- The value of the player
2- The quality of the player in terms of stars
3 - The amount of skills in each attribute
4- The type of training you chose

[Lukáš Ledecký]

So it's been 5 days already. When are you going to explain this update in detail? ))))))))))))))

[alexp7m]

So it's been 5 days already. When are you going to explain this update in detail? ))))))))))))))

Yesterday... I think

[John Grant]

So let me get this straight............all the mutant making managers are whining like whipped pigs because of a slight change making it much harder to produce the mutants they need to win matches. Maybe this is because they know that without the all powerful (rofl) mutants they might actually have to work a bit to win which may expose some of them as not being the managers they think they are. Oh the poor things , my heart bleeds for them. Then there are the guys who are worried about the time lag until the monster mutants are pretty much gone from the game meaning those mutant managers will manage to win a lot before then. Nothing different really but now at least it has a lifespan. Still after that there are the rest who didnt really involve themselves for whatever reason in the creation of mutants and those people are probably cheering this change.
It would be my guess that the last group mentioned is also the largest group so well done Nordeus you gave the majority something good and that my friends is good business.

[lespa]

So let me get this straight............all the mutant making managers are whining like whipped pigs because of a slight change making it much harder to produce the mutants they need to win matches. Maybe this is because they know that without the all powerful (rofl) mutants they might actually have to work a bit to win which may expose some of them as not being the managers they think they are. Oh the poor things , my heart bleeds for them. Then there are the guys who are worried about the time lag until the monster mutants are pretty much gone from the game meaning those mutant managers will manage to win a lot before then. Nothing different really but now at least it has a lifespan. Still after that there are the rest who didnt really involve themselves for whatever reason in the creation of mutants and those people are probably cheering this change.
It would be my guess that the last group mentioned is also the largest group so well done Nordeus you gave the majority something good and that my friends is good business.

result of this last change is that attributes are now harder and harder to build as they grow. most of us have players in club for 2-3 seasons with certain attributes pumped and now we have to work with players individually and that takes time...
why couldn't they return to old system where we were giving skil points to players after games and trainings?
so, that is one thing and the other is they did not inform us of these changes.
so, we are whining with good reason...

[lalexrus]

So let me get this straight............all the mutant making managers are whining like whipped pigs because of a slight change making it much harder to produce the mutants they need to win matches. Maybe this is because they know that without the all powerful (rofl) mutants they might actually have to work a bit to win which may expose some of them as not being the managers they think they are. Oh the poor things , my heart bleeds for them. Then there are the guys who are worried about the time lag until the monster mutants are pretty much gone from the game meaning those mutant managers will manage to win a lot before then. Nothing different really but now at least it has a lifespan. Still after that there are the rest who didnt really involve themselves for whatever reason in the creation of mutants and those people are probably cheering this change.
It would be my guess that the last group mentioned is also the largest group so well done Nordeus you gave the majority something good and that my friends is good business.

I think that those who now gloat and rejoice in innovations do not fully understand the consequences for them. And certainly - the bulk of managers and will not begin to win in this game buying ready-made players on the prediction or at an auction - this player is worse than trained. And do not forget - the presence of mutant players does not mean victory in the match, there is still tactics, settings, scheme - if the manager is a fool then he will not be able to win with the mutants.

[HairDryer]

So let me get this straight............all the mutant making managers are whining like whipped pigs because of a slight change making it much harder to produce the mutants they need to win matches. Maybe this is because they know that without the all powerful (rofl) mutants they might actually have to work a bit to win which may expose some of them as not being the managers they think they are. Oh the poor things , my heart bleeds for them. Then there are the guys who are worried about the time lag until the monster mutants are pretty much gone from the game meaning those mutant managers will manage to win a lot before then. Nothing different really but now at least it has a lifespan. Still after that there are the rest who didnt really involve themselves for whatever reason in the creation of mutants and those people are probably cheering this change.
It would be my guess that the last group mentioned is also the largest group so well done Nordeus you gave the majority something good and that my friends is good business.

Nothing positive about all your comments John all you do is ranting about others who think different from you.
So let me tell you that mutant player is NOT the problem UP-SELLING is the problem and Nordeus didn’t actually fixed it.
Now you tell me if I bought an 18 yo lowest 3* player and carefully trained only on the white skill in 2 season will be 340%-1% is that consider cheating?? Do I break the rule of training?
Hate to say this you “pathetic”.
Nordeus know this problem all the while that is why they start introducing the daily recommendations of 1000+ token player first before the training system change. Now if you want a superstar they have a ready made for you because the training will take that much of token and green to achieving a player like that.


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[lalexrus]

Nothing positive about all your comments John all you do is ranting about others who think different from you.
So let me tell you that mutant player is NOT the problem UP-SELLING is the problem and Nordeus didn’t actually fixed it.
Now you tell me if I bought an 18 yo lowest 3* player and carefully trained only on the white skill in 2 season will be 340%-1% is that consider cheating?? Do I break the rule of training?
Hate to say this you “pathetic”.
Nordeus know this problem all the while that is why they start introducing the daily recommendations of 1000+ token player first before the training system change. Now if you want a superstar they have a ready made for you because the training will take that much of token and green to achieving a player like that.

without up-selling you will be able to get a full 340 (all white 340 and gray 1) players at the DC or DL ​​/ DR position for about 24 years (equivalent to 6 levels of up-selling) provided that it was a player of 18 years old 3 *. for the top player I had to have about 300-400 green rests, now I think it's about 800, but again there's no sense in training player to 140 at 18 or 19 - that's too high for the average team rating, so in principle you can limit 120% and respectively about 120% player. Again, if every day to receive 30 green rests, then for the season will be approximately 800. so there is no need if there is now a normal squad urgently to training it to infinity and then the existing balance of green rests will be enough for about 2 players per season.
As for the suggestions for 1000 tokens - then the approach is simple (and the changes in the training system fit this perfectly) - we look at the game as people who have found a certain hobby for themselves, and Nordeus sees it as a business. Make money for Nordeus Again - this is their slogan now. )

[John Grant]

Nothing positive about all your comments John all you do is ranting about others who think different from you.
So let me tell you that mutant player is NOT the problem UP-SELLING is the problem and Nordeus didn’t actually fixed it.
Now you tell me if I bought an 18 yo lowest 3* player and carefully trained only on the white skill in 2 season will be 340%-1% is that consider cheating?? Do I break the rule of training?
Hate to say this you “pathetic”.
Nordeus know this problem all the while that is why they start introducing the daily recommendations of 1000+ token player first before the training system change. Now if you want a superstar they have a ready made for you because the training will take that much of token and green to achieving a player like that.


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I understand you less and less with each post. I wasnt having a rant at anyone , more I was just making an observation of the posts of other people in previous pages with an observation of my own at the end about Nordeus making a good business decision for Nordeus. Some of you like Hairdryer here are just too willing to get upset about everything and dont actually read a post properly , maybe its a language thing , I dont know.
I dont consider the creation of mutant players , although I dont do it myself , as cheating because its not as the game allows it to happen - so you can forget that argument first off. Is it good for the game in general ? My opinion has always been no and anything the game does to slow down or stop the creation of mutant players and by extension teams is in my opinion a good thing for the majority of players. Upselling is not illegal in this game although it should be , on that I think we can agree. How to legislate and police it are where I think Nordeus are having a problem , how it would be policed is a difficult if not impossible situation. I have 5 teams and investigated the possibility of buying/selling players between those teams but for some reason I cant do it so I guess all my teams are on different servers somehow.
Next , as I have said elsewhere , I really dont care how "successful " other managers may seem to be as it doesnt affect me and my playing of the game. If a manager needs mutant players , draw manipulation , tanking etc to win what are in reality fake trophies in fake competitions in a GAME for whatever reason ( eg bragging , pride , self esteem ) then that is their business and good luck to them. It doesnt bother me in the slightest way because I have fun with this game in my own way.
I dont remember ever writing a post where I complain about another manager cheating by use of the above mentioned devices or cheating in any way. I dont believe I have ever made a post about a supposed troll result either unlike some who seem to think every loss is a troll result. I win , I lose it is of no real concern to be honest because it doesnt diminish the fun factor for me.
Lastly and something the longer term players dont consider from the business point of view for Nordeus , they know you , they know which of you spend money and which dont. They know how many of you there are and so by extension how much money they will make from each segment of the games society. Some of you old timers accuse Nordeus of not caring about you , showing no loyalty to long term customers such as yourself and guess what - you would be correct because from a business point of view they gain very little from you. That being what your spending trend has been over X number of years doesnt change very much , if at all so there is no real income growth for them in regards your section of the community. It would be my guess that your specific population is in decline as well so your influence also declines. Nordeus now makes decisions that will benefit , they hope , the greater , newer population in the hope of extracting a larger revenue stream from them than they previously enjoyed. This is known as business growth and is , and has been , a fact of business life for eternity but some of the older population in this game dont seem to understand this or want to accept this concept. Simply put..............Nordeus exist to make money and that is the only reason they exist and this game is the current method of doing so for them.