This is not a rant, just me looking for answers.

[MDKII]

alright, I agree, perhaps my words were a little bit harsh but all I want is to be heard. I haven't been on these forums for very long, maybe a little over a month but I can tell that sometimes Nordeus just sweep things under the carpet and ignore the problem even though there have been so many threads about it. perhaps the most common bugs and technical issues (e.g the GK bug and the friendly match issue) were taken into consideration and may take time to fix I understand that but there were numerous threads about the game engine not being fair, and injuries being too common and never have I seen an answer that promises a look into the facts, all we see is "it could happen to everyone", "it's random" or the newest excuse you just gave me "If I knew why you lost in the game against a "worse" team, then I wouldn't be getting my behind handed to me in the game when I play as well".

sorry if I offended you or anyone that works for Nordeus in any way, but all I want is you guys to hear what we have to say, because if 1 or 2 people say something's wrong there may be a problem with them but if so many people state the SAME problem over and over again then there's something wrong with the game.

I do my best to read as many threads as I can, and I saw this thread after your first post. I can't really respond with "I've read this, thanks for the post", because I've used gaming forums as a player myself and I know how I'd feel about receiving that kind of answer. Rest assured, I do my best to relay all the common (and uncommon) issues with the game to the Devs. There have been quite a few bugs we managed to fix thanks to everyone's input. Sometimes it takes longer to fix or implement something, sometimes it's quick. It's why I can't really give much of a substantial update often, because it happens that we don't even know how long it'll take at times.

But everyone here has a voice as long as they respect everyone else's right to voice an opinion. Devs read the forums when they can fit it in their schedule, I read them on a daily basis, the mods read it and other players read it. I understand the frustration that can come from the game because even we at Nordeus sometimes get heated when we get too many injuries and lose important matches (we sadly don't have an "I win" button as developers ).

I'd also like to say that we've never used (that I remember) the excuse that the game is random or that "it could happen to everyone". I see players use this excuse (as well as other, more conspiracy-theory oriented excuses), but if you want to know why you lost a certain match, I think the closest official answer is "we can't tell you that". It's up to you to figure out and decide why you think you lost a match. Bad formation, bad players, bad luck, etc. If you think you could have done something, then maybe it's players or formation or not doing a good substitution on time. If you think you did everything you could, maybe the other manager did something more than that, or maybe yes, it was bad luck. Managing isn't just about setting up the perfect plan, but overcoming the inevitable setback as well, regardless what the reason for that setback was. This is maybe the closest I could give to an official answer.

[Maor23]

I do my best to read as many threads as I can, and I saw this thread after your first post. I can't really respond with "I've read this, thanks for the post", because I've used gaming forums as a player myself and I know how I'd feel about receiving that kind of answer. Rest assured, I do my best to relay all the common (and uncommon) issues with the game to the Devs. There have been quite a few bugs we managed to fix thanks to everyone's input. Sometimes it takes longer to fix or implement something, sometimes it's quick. It's why I can't really give much of a substantial update often, because it happens that we don't even know how long it'll take at times.

But everyone here has a voice as long as they respect everyone else's right to voice an opinion. Devs read the forums when they can fit it in their schedule, I read them on a daily basis, the mods read it and other players read it. I understand the frustration that can come from the game because even we at Nordeus sometimes get heated when we get too many injuries and lose important matches (we sadly don't have an "I win" button as developers ).

I'd also like to say that we've never used (that I remember) the excuse that the game is random or that "it could happen to everyone". I see players use this excuse (as well as other, more conspiracy-theory oriented excuses), but if you want to know why you lost a certain match, I think the closest official answer is "we can't tell you that". It's up to you to figure out and decide why you think you lost a match. Bad formation, bad players, bad luck, etc. If you think you could have done something, then maybe it's players or formation or not doing a good substitution on time. If you think you did everything you could, maybe the other manager did something more than that, or maybe yes, it was bad luck. Managing isn't just about setting up the perfect plan, but overcoming the inevitable setback as well, regardless what the reason for that setback was. This is maybe the closest I could give to an official answer.

even though I'm not entirely satisfied with the answer, I thank you for it. it's not your fault as I wouldn't be satisfied with any given answer, because it's just not fair sometimes. I just want to ask you for one more thing, if you didn't already do so, please forward this to whoever that can do something about it.

every person has a limit of how much injustice and unrealistic loses he can take and I can assure you that if it continues that way you will lose some players. I don't care if you (Nordeus) only created this game for money or if you actually like it, but we do like this game so please don't let us down.

[cracicot]

I understand the frustration that can come from the game because even we at Nordeus sometimes get heated when we get too many injuries and lose important matches (we sadly don't have an "I win" button as developers ).

Alas, you might not have the "I win" button BUT, and this is a J-LO big BUT, you do have the inside information on the rules and formations and other aspects of the game that are yet to be released to the general public. Lets face it: the devs programmed the game and know what is best for their players and teams. That is not to say that they should win every game, BUT, another big J-LO BUT, they have the upper hand when it comes to knowledge of the game. Knowledge is power. This cannot be denied.

All that to say...I want to be a MOD.

[Hecke]

It's up to you to figure out and decide why you think you lost a match. Bad formation, bad players, bad luck, etc. If you think you could have done something, then maybe it's players or formation or not doing a good substitution on time. If you think you did everything you could, maybe the other manager did something more than that, or maybe yes, it was bad luck. Managing isn't just about setting up the perfect plan, but overcoming the inevitable setback as well, regardless what the reason for that setback was. This is maybe the closest I could give to an official answer.

The whole thread is about the fact that that doesnt work properly. Did you realize what this is all about? WE WANT IT THAT WAY BUT IT IS NOT YET!!!!!

[cracicot]

The whole thread is about the fact that that doesnt work properly. Did you realize what this is all about? WE WANT IT THAT WAY BUT IT IS NOT YET!!!!!

I'm sorry, I did not hear you with the CAPS LOCK on.

[SimplySimon]

The whole thread is about the fact that that doesnt work properly. Did you realize what this is all about? WE WANT IT THAT WAY BUT IT IS NOT YET!!!!!

It seems to me that what the thread is about is some people wanting the game to work like this:

I have a better team, I win the match

OR

I want to understand exactly how the game works so that I can put out a winning team every time


There are a whole lot of players who aren't on the forum complaining about losing a few games or having injuries that enjoy the challenge of trying to build a squad and compete for trophies in a difficult game. I am one of those who prefers that it isn't just about buying the best players or setting up the right counter formation - although those things can help at times

[cracicot]

It seems to me that what the thread is about is some people wanting the game to work like this:

I have a better team, I win the match

OR

I want to understand exactly how the game works so that I can put out a winning team every time


There are a whole lot of players who aren't on the forum complaining about losing a few games or having injuries that enjoy the challenge of trying to build a squad and compete for trophies in a difficult game. I am one of those who prefers that it isn't just about buying the best players or setting up the right counter formation - although those things can help at times

You are right in that most people want to win, this is natural. I laugh my ass off at the tons of post from people who EXPECT to win because of 1) formation , 2) they buy tokens, 3) team quality is more than opponent.

But there is nothing wrong with wanting to know the ins and outs of this game down the most minute detail in order to win every game. At the end of the day, this is just a game and not cold fusion. If people want to put their effort into this and study it, so be it.

We only hear from the people who want to voice their opinions on this game. We dont hear from the many thousands (LOL) of people who have the same amount of frustration and anger and yes, even happiness. Since they arent on here, they really dont exist? (Yes the cat is both alive AND dead).

Anyways...just sayin

Colin OUT!

[SimplySimon]

You are right in that most people want to win, this is natural. I laugh my ass off at the tons of post from people who EXPECT to win because of 1) formation , 2) they buy tokens, 3) team quality is more than opponent.

But there is nothing wrong with wanting to know the ins and outs of this game down the most minute detail in order to win every game. At the end of the day, this is just a game and not cold fusion. If people want to put their effort into this and study it, so be it.

We only hear from the people who want to voice their opinions on this game. We dont hear from the many thousands (LOL) of people who have the same amount of frustration and anger and yes, even happiness. Since they arent on here, they really dont exist? (Yes the cat is both alive AND dead).

Anyways...just sayin

Colin OUT!

Schrodinger reference, love it!

The forum holds an incredible amount of info on how the game works and how to do well on it, even down to the most minute details, so I guess this is where study and experimentation can be - and is - done

All I'm saying is that however hard you study the game, there shouldn't be 'one way' to win matches or beat other tactics, and that as long as the game is the same for everyone, it being difficult and even downright frustrating at times isn't a bad thing. In some ways it's more realistic because of that

Final Note: Statistically people are several times more likely to complain about something than praise it, so the balance of posts will never be in favour of those who are happy with the game

It's why I'm trying to strike a semblance of balance here - I think Nordeus are doing a fantastic job with this game AND are working hard to make it better. Of course they will never be able to make everyone happy all the time

[Hecke]

It seems to me that what the thread is about is some people wanting the game to work like this:

I have a better team, I win the match

OR

I want to understand exactly how the game works so that I can put out a winning team every time


There are a whole lot of players who aren't on the forum complaining about losing a few games or having injuries that enjoy the challenge of trying to build a squad and compete for trophies in a difficult game. I am one of those who prefers that it isn't just about buying the best players or setting up the right counter formation - although those things can help at times

Its posts like that which make these threads so frustrating. So to me you didnt read the thread properly. Cant we talk here about the issues with the engine without someone telling the obvious, like you cant win them all or things like that. No one said he wants to win them all. No one said there shouldnt be bad luck. But some things are just so ridiculous, that it should be said here.