This is not a rant, just me looking for answers.

[SimplySimon]

Ok, baited into one last response. Of course I read the thread properly and responded as best I felt I could, addressing two specific points from the OP as well as other posters. I'll say it once more, the game engine will never make everyone happy because it comes down to what a person can accept as a realistic result - ultimately it's very difficult to simulate the real thing, because it's so unpredictable

Real life examples from English football - Bradford City get to a cup final, team costs about £200k. QPR terrible in EPL, full of expensive internationals and much higher 'quality' than other teams. If the equivalent to those things happens in a game people will scream "it's not realistic"

Of course easy for me to say, my team is doing well. And yes I've only played a couple of months. But that doesn't make my opinions less valid - as I stated, I know manager games well as does my Greek friend above, so I know this is a good one

The devs have done well, created a great game, and clearly try to make improvements. I try to be a voice of reason or to offer a counter point, perhaps people just want someone to say "Yeah, same for me, ****ing stupid devs don't listen, they need to change it/change it back blah blah blah"

So rather than my post ruining the thread, it is the comments heading this way that ruins the forum. There is a vent thread to screw off about all the injustices of the game engine, because these frustrations will always exist

The OP summed it up when he said that no answer will satisfy him, that is true for most complainants I guess

-sign off-

[Maor23]

The OP summed it up when he said that no answer will satisfy him, that is true for most complainants I guess

of course no answer here on this forum could satisfy me as this result already happened and ruined a tiny part of my own game play without being able to do anything about it. I'm not tricked by those robotic answers anymore that they keep giving to every single complain or bug report. the title of this thread may be a little misleading, it wasn't about just getting some answers it was more about being heard, adding another voice to the huge amount of complains that have the same basis.

it's not the first time I complain about something on this game and probably not the last (if I keep on playing), and this is also not the first online game I've ever played. I complained about a bug a month ago or so and got the most arrogant answers I could get, all I expected was a normal "we'll look into it, thank you for the report" instead I got a "check your internet connection", "perhaps you don't understand how it works" and my favorite "this is the first time someone reports such bug". so it's not possible that I'm the only/first one with a bug basically I'm just a lying scum, who doesn't understand the game and with a bad internet connection, right.

It seems to me that what the thread is about is some people wanting the game to work like this:

I have a better team, I win the match

OR

I want to understand exactly how the game works so that I can put out a winning team every time

this is so NOT what this thread is about, Hecke explained it to you in the best way possible but I just wanted it to come from me too as the opener of it. I can find real life examples for everything (Barcelona had 89% of possession against Celtic and still lost 2-1) but the thing is that it's rare in real life and common on this game, that's my biggest complain. I have a better team, I shouldn't win them all but I should win them more.

sorry for going a little off-topic.

[gkassimis]

Ok, baited into one last response. Of course I read the thread properly and responded as best I felt I could, addressing two specific points from the OP as well as other posters. I'll say it once more, the game engine will never make everyone happy because it comes down to what a person can accept as a realistic result - ultimately it's very difficult to simulate the real thing, because it's so unpredictable

Real life examples from English football - Bradford City get to a cup final, team costs about £200k. QPR terrible in EPL, full of expensive internationals and much higher 'quality' than other teams. If the equivalent to those things happens in a game people will scream "it's not realistic"

Of course easy for me to say, my team is doing well. And yes I've only played a couple of months. But that doesn't make my opinions less valid - as I stated, I know manager games well as does my Greek friend above, so I know this is a good one

The devs have done well, created a great game, and clearly try to make improvements. I try to be a voice of reason or to offer a counter point, perhaps people just want someone to say "Yeah, same for me, ****ing stupid devs don't listen, they need to change it/change it back blah blah blah"

So rather than my post ruining the thread, it is the comments heading this way that ruins the forum. There is a vent thread to screw off about all the injustices of the game engine, because these frustrations will always exist

The OP summed it up when he said that no answer will satisfy him, that is true for most complainants I guess

-sign off-

first of all i respect everyones opinion but playing less than 2 seasons is a very short period to come to safe conclusions. 80% of my friends have quit the game because the devs don't fix specific craps. it has nothing to do with winning or loosing. it has to do with the way the result comes. i can accept a bad performance and a lose from a weak team. but i mind loosing from a much weaker team playing with less players, illegal formation, wrong positions etc.